Brad,

Your quote:

"Does anyone know where I can find the quote from John Adams where
he says something like that he has been a businessman so that his sons could become doctors and lawyers so that their sons could become artists and philosophers?
 
I would love to be able to quote it!"


This quote is so good, I advise you to steal it and make it your own.

Harry
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Brad wrote:

Harry Pollard wrote:
>
> Brad,
>
> You blamed Tom for something I wrote.

I certainly do not intend to attribute to anyone anything
they did not say. 

On the other hand, email seems to me
a kind of "semiotic soup", and I usually am interested
in addressing assertions (along with their affective
components, mystifications, etc., of course...) rather than
persons.  When I do address a *person*, I think I do it
clearly -- the rifle and not the shotgun is my preferred
style.

>
> Of course at the end of your post you are describing the free market
> the way it should be - with choice available to you.

*If* free markets really were free in the sense of
every person having the "means" to be able to walk away
from any situation they did not feel was suitable to them,
and to be able to continue to pursue their lives
without serious impediment elsewhere, then I would
be all in favor of them. 

What else could be appropriate
to a *who* (rather than a *what*!) than to freely
enter into or not enter into relationships according to
his or her unconstrained free and informed volition?
(Among others, this is at the root of Jurgen Habermas's
"discourse ethics" and "transcendental pragmatics of communication".)

But employees, whatever color their collars, generally
are not in such a condition.  (Do you disagree?) 

Perhaps The United States of America was closer to such
a "novus ordo seclorum" at the time of the Founding Fathers
than today? 

On the other hand, the Founding Fathers,
as admirers of classical ideals, knew that
freedom *from* enterprise is the goal of
freedom *of* enterprise. 

Does anyone know
where I can find the quote from John Adams where
he says something like that he has been a businessman
so that his sons could become doctors and lawyers so
that their sons could become artists and philosophers?
I would love to be able to quote it!

"Yours in discourse...."

\brad mccormick

>
> The problem with wage earners is that choice is usually closed to
> them. So, our job is to find out why.
>
> Or we can accept the consequences and try to make it easier for them.
> Give them food stamps, free medical, free child care, help with their
> housing costs and all the other things they need - except justice.
>
> Harry


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