Let's get this straight Keith.

You don't like the IMF.  They have no legitimacy.

You recommend the same actions the IMF demanded from Argentina.

But you don't support their remedies.

You just agree with them?

I don't get what you are saying.  

Bruce Leier

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Keith Hudson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2002 1:28 AM
> To: Bruce Leier
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: IMF not my baby (was RE: Cry for Argentina
> 
> Bruce,
> 
> At 17:54 25/06/02 -0500, you wrote:
> >Keith,
> >
> >You have out-done yourself!  Argentina did exactly what the IMF told
> >them to do: privatize, cut back public services and increase trade.
> >That's why they went belly up!
> >
> >Bruce Leier
> 
> I don't know why I am supposed to be in favour of the IMF or to
endorse
> their remedies.
> 
> The IMF was instituted as a back-up to those countries which got into
> difficulty when trading according to the fixed (that is, artificial)
> exchange rates of Bretton Woods. Since fixed rates vapourised in the
70s,
> the IMF has no constitutional basis and has been acting ultra vires
ever
> since.
> 
> The fact that I am generally in favour of minimising public spending
and
> maximising free trade doesn't give me or anybody else the ability to
give
> sensible advice to a country, such as Argentina, which has been
unfortunate
> enough to have had corrupt governments for over a century.
> 
> Nobody can help Argentina except itself. It has more than a few able
> economists who could draw up a sensible strategy if they were asked to
by
> its politicians or electorate. Until then, why should any government
or
> bank pour yet more money (partly your money, too, if coming from the
IMF)
> down a black hole -- as they have been doing ever since Argentina's
first
> big international loan (and consequent first default) in the 1850s?
> 
> Keith Hudson
> 
> 
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:owner-
> >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Keith Hudson
> >> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 2:06 AM
> >> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >> Subject: Cry for Argentina
> >>
> >> Terribly sad report on BBC Radio 4 this morning. Argentina, which
was
> >the
> >> fourth most prosperous country in the world and the bread basket of
> >Europe
> >> only a century ago, is now sinking to levels associated with the
most
> >> impoverished countries in the world, such as Bangladesh and Nepal.
> >Millions
> >> of people are now surviving only by begging, making compost or by
> >sorting
> >> and re-selling household rubbish thrown out by the minority of
those
> >who
> >> still have jobs.
> >>
> >> What happened in the course of the last century is that Argentina's
> >> dictators learned how to make themselves popular in difficult times
by
> >> giving out large welfare benefits to the public instead of allowing
> >their
> >> economy to operate in the normal way. In order to do this, the
> >politicians
> >> had to borrow repeatedly from banks and other governments -- though
> >> reneging on the loans when due. The result today is that no
government
> >will
> >> lend Argentina's politicians any more money (that is, via the IMF
--
> >which
> >> doesn't have money of its own) unless there's evidence that they
will
> >> follow normal economic rules, among which would be a sincere
intention
> >to
> >> repay.
> >>
> >> Some nine or ten months ago, we had a poignant message on FW from
> >Carmen, a
> >> young Argentinian economist who was desperate to know what she and
her
> >> young colleagues could do. My advice at the time was that she would
> >have no
> >> chance of influencing events because an inappropriate welfare
culture
> >was
> >> still too deeply embedded in the older generation and that this
would
> >> firstly have to die out over the next twenty or thirty years before
> >common
> >> sense could prevail. I suggested that she would be well advised to
> >> emigrate. We haven't heard from her since then and I hope she's all
> >right.
> >>
> >> Keith Hudson
> 
>
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