Hmmmm....wouldn't NIPA measure transactions, rather than profits? There may
be an assumed relationship, that is, as transactions grow, so 'should'
profits,' but the GDP or GNPs are not measures, if I remember correctly of
profits, but of the volume of financial transactions that have taken place,
regardless of whether they resulted in a profit.

Lawry

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>
> As it seems to be economist-bashing time on Futurework I can't resist
> passing on an amusing item from today's 'Times' which I read on my dogwalk
> this morning (during which my dog stole another dog's ball and
> destroyed it
> in one bite which caused protracted and exceedingly diplomatic
> negotiations
> with the other dog's owner) before I turn to the sordid business
> of earning
> a few pennies.
>
> <<<<
> NO  FICTITIOUS  PROFITS  AT  UNCLE  SAM  INC
> Chris Ayres
>
> An economic conundrum is keeping me awake at night. It is this: surely if
> WorldCom overstated its profits by US$3.8 billion and Merck reported US$14
> billion of "phantom" revenues, then the Gross Domestic Product
> (GDP) of the
> United States must be wildly inaccurate.
>
> In fact, if as many firms have been fiddling their books as we have been
> led to believe, logic would suggest that the US will have to re-state its
> own financial results -- that is, its GDP -- for, oh, the past
> ten years or
> so.
>
> Imagine the Press Release: "Following an internal audit, Uncle Sam has
> discovered accounting irregularities regarding the sale of approximately
> $10 trillion of computer equipment during the past decade. All relevant
> authorities have been informed."
>
> President Bush would be forced to send himself to jail -- and then, in a
> populist move to please voters in Texas, double his sentence.
>
> This theory gripped me with such force that I took radical
> action: I called
> an economist. The dismal scientist in question was Ken Goldstein,
> who works
> for the Conference Board, the economic research company behind the
> oft-cited Consumer Confidence Index.
>
> Goldstein informed me that my theory is both unoriginal and
> entirely wrong.
> The eggheads who compile GDP figures, he says, do not use data issued by
> corporations.
>
> Instead, they use something called National Income and Product Account
> (NIPA). This method of calculating the profits made by US firms without
> relying on their published financial reports was invented in the 1930s by
> the late Simon Kuznets.  NIPA is so ingenious that Kuznets won a Nobel
> Prize for it.
>
> But hang on a minute. If NIPA is so foolproof and accurate, then someone
> must have spotted a sufdden and inexplicable difference between its
> quarterly growth rate and the growth rate of the fictitious profits
> reported by the likes of Enron amd WorldCom. At this point,
> Goldstein coughs.
>
> Well, yes, he replies. As it turns out, the growth rate of NIPA and
> Standard & Poor's 500 profits tracked each other for years, but suddenly
> began to contradict each other in 1998, the year the boom became a bubble.
> In that year, NIPA figures said corporate after-tax profits had plunged
> 7.5%. But according to the figures released by S&P's 500
> companies, profits
> had increased by an impressive 3.7%.
>
> Clearly someone was telling porkie pies*. At the time, amazingly, it was
> the Nobel Prizewinner's figures that were questioned, not the S&P 500's.
>
> But what did the economists do about it? In the end, nothing. "It was
> staring us in the face," admits a sombre Goldstein. So forget Arthur
> Andersen. It was the economists wot done it.
> >>>>
>
> *Just in case an FWer doesn't understand this term, this is the Cockney
> (London) rhyming slang for "lies". There are thousands of them. e.g.:
> Aristotle -- bottle; Crown Jewels -- tools; Flowery Dell -- cell (prison);
> Fork and Knife -- wife; Forrest (Gump) -- dump; Four-wheeler (car,
> automobile) -- Sheila; Apple Tart -- fart. Got it? M'mm . . . all this is
> displacement activity -- I must now get on with some work.)
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