Keith, I agree that there is a struggle going on in the Bush
administration. Even though 'W' is not a match for the brain power
surrounding him, you have to remember that his background and wealth is
in and from oil and he probably has a much warmer feeling for Saudi money
than anyone else there.

Bill

On Mon, 12 Aug 2002 16:04:12 +0100 Keith Hudson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
writes:
> Bill,
> 
> At 09:08 12/08/02 -0400, you wrote:
> >Keith,
> >
> >While the scenarios you mention may all occur, I feel that you are
> >imputing too much logic to the Bush contingent. My guess is that 
> they are
> >simply trying to put the squeeze on Sa'ud and trying to help out a 
> few
> >Congress people for the November elections. I bet you will see a 
> change
> >in the polemics once the elections are over.
> 
> I hardly think so. The Saudis have been a thorn in the flesh of the
> Americans for too many years.  For example, as swing producer in 
> OPEC, SA
> has been able to manipulate oil prices for the last 20 years. Also, 
> what
> about the many American deaths in recent years organised by 
> terrorists paid
> for and organised out of SA? The authorities made no attempt to 
> arrest the
> network even though they must know exactly who they are. (In the 
> case of
> the most recent bombing, the Saudis have arrested a few Englishmen 
> as
> terrorists even though all that they appear to have done is to 
> organise a
> little whiskey smuggling!) The most the Saudis have done was to 
> banish
> Osama bin Laden, but they didn't stop huge quantities of funds 
> being
> funnelled to him from SA.
> 
> In diplomatic terms, America has been treated with something akin to 
> open
> contempt by the Saudis in the last 20 years but haven't responded in 
> a
> heavy-handed way because of the importance of oil supplies to the US 
> and
> Europe. But 11 September finally pushed America too far. (The ploy 
> of
> somehow making Saddam Hussein the scapegoat must have been the 
> personal
> contribution of Bush senior!)   
> 
> As for the logic of the Bush contingent I'll grant you that the 
> President
> himself is not over-endowed in the greymatter department, but the 
> people
> behind him (such as Wolfowitz) are certainly very bright kiddies 
> indeed.
> I'm not normally a conspiracy-theory supporter but my guess is that 
> the
> Carlyle group, Bush senior, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Perle and specialist 
> advisors
> in the State department (and a few progressive Saudi Arabians) have 
> been
> thinking about the Islamic fundamentalist problem intensely for two 
> or
> three years now given the state of King Fahd's health. 11 September
> catalysed their ideas.
> 
> You may be right but I'd lay odds of 10:1 on that my scenario is 
> going to
> be nearer the mark. The polemics can't simply change on Bush's 
> say-so
> because the underlying problems will still be there. By the time 
> the
> November elections come along, I think Gulf War II will have 
> already
> started and getting into its stride. (And by this I mean a much 
> wider
> affair than merely anti-Iraq. ) . 
> 
> Keith
> 
> 
>
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