Bill,

At 10:05 17/09/02 -0400, you wrote:
<<<<
I honestly believe that this process happens when population demand on
resources is such that, to survive, one country needs to control the
resources of another. We are in an end-stage process described so well by
Jeremy Rifkin in Entropy.
>>>>

If, by the above, you mean competition between users of resources (chiefly
oil and gas -- the energistic facilitator of all other resources), I'm not
so sure. There is certainly great inequality of consumption between nations
but most of the world doesn't yet have the technologies or economic
structures which could absorb many resources. The biggest rival to America
in its future needs for Middle East oil and gas, China, still has quite
modest requirements.

Although the theoretical end is in sight for oil and gas (tailing off from
about 2030 onwards*) this doesn't yet enter much into the calculations of
business and certainly not of politicians with even shorter time scales.

(*However, the tailing-off will be a great deal more protracted than the
rapidity of the take-up between 1950 and now. In other words the supply
curve is very assymmetric.)

The competition at present is rather between producers. It's still a
buyers' market even though OPEC, and particularly Saudi Arabia as its
biggest producer, has a degree of control and can manipulate the price of
oil within quite large margins. From the political point of view the royal
family of Saudi Arabia is far more dependent on being able to supply a
large and dependable export market (America) than America is dependent on
SA imports, large though they are at present. Any significant decrease in
SA imports into America would cause huge economic problems for America but
it would probably be able to scramble around and make up the supply within
three or four years -- it wouldn't be the end of the American political
system. But, for the Saudi Arabian royal family, any further decreases in
their ability to make welfare payments to their large numbers of unemployed
(particularly young men) and other state supports, would certainly bring
about the end of their autocracy forever, and quite possibly bring about
the sort of long-term civil wars that already characterise something like
20 or 30 countries around the world.

If we're at Jeremy Rifkin's end-stage, then I think we're at the very
beginnings of it. It will take at least a century to play itself through.

Keith
  

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