Bill,
The third way is Aristocratic Tyranny. What is the fourth way? REH > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "William B Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 10:42 PM > Subject: Re: No more slanging ( was Re: dumping GM food on Africa) > > > > Ray > > , > > > > Those are great case studies. As in the first of the 20th Century, we may > > go to the hospital today to die. > > > > The US taxpayer paid $1 billion for the development of AZT and > > Burroughs/Wellcome pocketed the cash. The taxpayer will always pay > > whether the system be capitalist or communist. > > > > Bill > > > > On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 18:09:45 -0400 "Ray Evans Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > writes: > > > Drugs are admittedly an issue but by far the most obvious problem > > > that I've > > > seen are problems of sanitation and mass production in hospitals. > > > We have > > > two very seriously ill people in our community and they have > > > survived > > > through the "miracles of modern medicine" but what saved their lives > > > was in > > > one case the Mother who went to the hospital daily and cleaned the > > > room to > > > keep down the staph infections that would have killed her son and > > > almost did > > > in another hospital. (he has no kidneys). The other was a > > > daughter who > > > fought the medical personnel on a daily basis when they on several > > > occasions > > > put "do not resucitate" orders on her Mother without her knowledge. > > > She > > > too cleaned the room and kept her mother alive by sheer will and > > > the > > > willingness to give up her own career and literally serve her > > > parent. The > > > Mother in the first case still works but the whole family cares for > > > the son. > > > > > > Without these support systems too many people simply fall through > > > the > > > cracks. I love our local socialist medical hospital (the VA) but > > > you have > > > to stay alert or you will suffer the same problems. I am > > > convinced that > > > many of the issues that kill people in the hospitals that are so > > > much on the > > > news have to do with dirty rooms and poor sanitation. Frankly it > > > is > > > disgusting in the hospitals here. But that is private > > > enterprise. > > > Medicine is a business NOT a profession. Now that IS sick. > > > While you > > > are spreading out your drug testing period who will pay for that? > > > Under > > > this system that is simply not an option. > > > > > > best, > > > > > > Ray Evans Harrell > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "William B Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 4:58 PM > > > Subject: Re: No more slanging ( was Re: dumping GM food on Africa) > > > > > > > > > A slower approval process. It was speeded up considerably during > > > the > > > > Clinton era and has continued since. There have been a number of > > > dramatic > > > > drug products that have been pulled off the market after being > > > approved > > > > since there were major side effects [i.e., mortality]. Whow as it > > > that > > > > said that MDs were the 3rd cause of death [not them but the > > > process]? > > > > > > > > http://skepdic.com/comments/dheacom.html > > > > http://www.mercola.com/2000/jul/30/doctors_death.htm > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill > > > > > > > > On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 16:42:46 -0400 "Ray Evans Harrell" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > writes: > > > > > So what are you suggesting instead? > > > > > > > > > > Ray Evans Harrell > > > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "William B Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Sent: Monday, September 23, 2002 2:28 PM > > > > > Subject: Re: No more slanging ( was Re: dumping GM food on > > > Africa) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Harry, > > > > > > > > > > > > The awards in liability insurance rarely add up to the cost > > > to > > > > > Society > > > > > > [maybe Johns Mansville and a subsidiary of Dow/Corning but > > > they > > > > > are still > > > > > > around. > > > > > > > > > > > > Bill Ward > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 23 Sep 2002 08:44:02 -0700 Harry Pollard > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > People are responsible for any harm they cause, and I agree > > > with > > > > > > > > > > > > you, it should be world-wide. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________________________________________ > > > > > > GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! > > > > > > Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! > > > > > > Join Juno today! 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