Ray, as you know, I am very happy that this moron does not speak for me.  He is as radical as those who called for the fatwa.  If he were speaking as an individual, I’d been bound to defend his right to free speech.  But he claims to represent a group of people that supposedly abandoned the eye for an eye Old Testament in favor of a new contract with God in the NT, one that imagined something better.  When he speaks this way as a man of God, he is not just a theological fraud, but shaming the people who support him.  Aside from that, these men’s provincialism is a liability.  

You’d think that Robertson’s spending habits on race horses and part ownership of a gold mine operation with an African dictator would disturb the faithful, but apparently not.  Maybe they just don’t know.  He and Falwell represent what those of us raised in church refer to as microphone addicts, nothing more than entertainers wearing collars. 

The fact that he and Robertson have not been “tarred and feathered” (I love old phrases) by their supporters appalls me.  If he really did insinuate that he was speaking for Pres. Bush, he should be “taken to the woodshed” and become an overnight persona non grata (a really old phrase).

I guess the cynical question is whether he will be tolerated for this religious bigotry or disavowed?  If he is tolerated, it signals imho that right now the administration prefers that we live in fear and distrust rather than continue to find peaceful procedural solutions to serious problems.  

There may not be many real nonzero solutions to global problems, but there certainly are other options than the unpredictability of war to solve real dangers.  War is just the beginning of new problems.  Just as the Israelis and the Palestinians.  

If killing people because of words is intolerable, then Falwell is an accessory to the crime.  Cousin KWC

 

Ray wrote: Falwell is an ass but killing people because of words is intolerable.    If he had said what Julius Streicher said about Jews then maybe, but there is such a distinction between the meanings of words in the world, that I don't see much hope for either of the three Middle Eastern Family Folks.    What the folks in India and Iran refuse to look at is the context in which such  "edelweiss's" (think "sounds like") are speaking.     Falwell says such outrageous things on a daily basis and it is not blasphemous or even outrageous in English Fundamentalist Cant.    It IS ignorant but it is not strange or outrageous.   When we shine that same light on any of the provincial chauvinisms we get the same story no matter where we look.    But if anyone comes here to practice a Fatwa on Rushdie, Falwell or any other, then they strike at the fundamental core of our civilization and the civilization that I have agreed to live within.    It is the basis of the Internet as well.  

Frankly I have seen Falwell's quote about the Prophet's war policies on Islamic sites on the internet.   They didn't equate it with terrorism but with proscylitization.    And history is history.    Since we don't and won't give the European  speaking world a serious rote education as is done in Islam and we will not give Islamic kids a serious education in (what would you call it?)   "thought that doesn't give ultimate power to words from a singular source" type of thought, then perhaps the best we can hope for is a good fence.    Funny how I arrive at that conclusion.     I just experienced a similar situation yesterday between a Libertarian Methodist and an old time Jewish producer.     They simply didn't speak the same English.   No amount of testing or anything else would change their disagreement either.   Ultimately they just decided not to be around one another.    "Life is too short!"  

I've just started reading a new book on how old this issue is and how deep in our culture.    It is called:  The Limits of Multiculturalism, Interrogating The Origins of American Anthropology by Scott Michaelsen,  Minnesota U. Press.     It traces many of the attitudes of the modern West to the Anthropologists who were theorizing about my people.    What was not mentioned at the time was that there were fine to great Writers writing from the other side about these Western Anthropological "Pioneers."     What is not mentioned is how deeply these violent attitudes are grounded in the religions of the World and how much the world has paid and is paying for them.     I speak this from the position of being both a member and clergy in one of the religions of the world.    Falwell is not going to stop being Falwell and neither will Islam give that rock back to the Indigenous people it originally belonged to.    I think a statement from the Theater is appropriate here.     "If you can't take the heat then get off the stage."     The stage is now the world.     Defeat Falwell with ideas otherwise he was right.  Cousin REH

Muslims Welcome Falwell Apology: slur of Mohammed as ‘terrorist’ sparks deadly weekend riots

@ http://www.msnbc.com/news/820495.asp

Another reason preachers should not be fraternizing with politicians, or vice versa.  Falwell apologized for his comments from 60 Minutes 10.06.02 but admitted no wrong, only that certain people were hurt by his comments.  He also attributed his thinking as similar to Pres. Bush’s.  ?!? 

Note the use of the phrase “Zionized Christianity”. 

If Muslims can be locked up these days for making anti-American foreign policy remarks, then these ‘men of the cloth’ surely need at least a muzzle, if not to be defrocked by their supporters.  Well, we know what Gen. Rove should be doing this Sunday: damage control.  - KWC

 

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