Keith wrote:  We live in interesting times!

Don't we though?  So what do you guys think will happen in the Japanese and
Chinese markets/economy when the US attacks Iraq?  What about Wall Street?
Will a New Year's timing make any difference?

I found it unusual that the NYT had three separate articles about Japan's
banking problems yesterday.  One an OpEd piece and the other two under
International.  The OpEd piece largely asked the question if the Bush
administration knew what is was doing pushing Japan to reform, as in, be
careful what you wish for, and the other two explained and complained about
the situation from different angles.

Would Reform Ruin Japan? @
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/29/opinion/29MURP.html
Japan's Sick Banking System Resists Therapy @
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/29/business/worldbusiness/29BANK.html
Japan's Zombie Businesses Live On @
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/10/29/business/worldbusiness/29ZOMB.html

Here in the States we like to think that we remade Japan after defeating her
50 years ago, but we didn't really change the native bureaucracy that much.
McArthur made significant changes, but the reforms were superficial at the
middle management on down level.  After we turned the country back over to
them, the native bureaucrats reestablished their hold on getting things done
at the local level.  Patrick Smith made this point repeatedly in his Japan:
A Reinterpretation, essentially debunking the Reischauer 'Chrysanthemum
Club's' presentation of Japan to the post-war Allies.  The more I restudy
Japan as an adult 30+ years away from living there as a teenager, the more I
agree.  The Japanese adopted our institutional ideas but adapted it to their
peculiar native practices, just as SE Asian Muslims practice a different
version of Islam than do Arab Muslims.  Yet today too many seem confused
that they aren't exactly like us in their application of an imported idea.
You'd think that we'd have learned the lesson by now that not everything we
do is golden, and not everyone will use democracy and 'free market
capitalism' the same way.

All of this should be foremost on our minds as people are making plans to
refashion the Middle East after initiating a war for liberation and ignoring
what is happening in the Far East.

I don't know how else to enlighten so many people who have not traveled or
lived elsewhere so that they have the eyes, ears and head to see the world
from other's perspectives.  It's not just a matter of not speaking other
languages, or learning more world history, or reading more international
news.  There is still a pervasive provincialism that we must constantly
fight to minimize.  Otherwise, we will not be prepared for the consequences.

Karen

Keith wrote: Re your posting below, the FT today confirms (in its own more
restrained way) the language that Howson uses to describe the possibility of
buying Chinese "A shares" (". . . very, very hot ideologically . . . very,
very hot commercially . . . and it's going to potentially have a very, very
big impact on the capital markets.")  Apparently China's head Securities
Regulator, a Mr Zhou, outlined the plan to fund managers in Singapore last
week, and this makes the prospect almost certain as soon as the five-yearly
Communist Party Congress in Shanghai is out of the way.
Even apart from the possibility of portfolio investment in China, I seem to
remember reading somewhere recently that foreign direct investment (FDI) in
Chinese firms is now poised to overtake FDI in America.
We live in interesting times!

 From PBS Nightly Business Report.  Comment?  Speculation?  Bets?  - KWC
10/28/02: Stock Trading Has A Sinister Side In China @
http://www.nightlybusiness.org/trnscrpt.htm#STORY3

SUSIE GHARIB: Buying stock in companies is a pretty easy process in the
United States, but that's not true elsewhere in the world. Take China, for
example. Noah Smith reports.

NOAH SMITH, NIGHTLY BUSINESS REPORT CORRESPONDENT: Twelve hundred of
China's best companies are listed on its domestic stock markets. But,
sorry, they're off limits to foreign investors.  Shares in China's listed
companies are divided into three main types.  So-called A shares are traded
on the open market but constitute less than a third of the total.  Almost
all the rest are held by the government in the form of state shares and
legal person shares. The state shares cannot be sold even to private
Chinese investors and none of them can be bought by foreigners.

FRASER HOWIE, CHINA SECURITIES SPECIALIST: That has created a very warped
marketplace and limits the effectiveness of the stock market, the
effectiveness in terms of allocating capital, of bringing market discipline
to the listed companies themselves.  And, also, it's now put the government
in a very difficult position in that it's unable to raise more funds off
its existing share holdings.

SMITH: Beijing needs to raise money, in part to support billions of dollars
in pension liabilities.  And since China's entry last year in the World
Trade Organization, pressure has been building to ease restrictions on
foreign investment.  In the past few months, several government departments
have issued statements that show support for foreign investment in listed
companies, but there hasn't been any official policy change.  Meanwhile,
reports in China's state press say that pilot deals are in the works.

NICHOLAS HOWSON, PAUL, WEISS, RIFKIND, WHARTON & GARRISON: Something is up.
 No one is sure exactly what is up, but my bet would be that within the
next six months you will start to see experimental or ad hoc or specific
approvals of disposals of state owned shares, legal person shares to
foreign investors.

SMITH: Such talk has China's more aggressive listed companies looking for
ways to tap overseas money.  We're talking with some foreign investors, he
says, but right now we're limited to cooperating with foreign companies on
product development.  Foreign investment in listed Chinese companies could
have a strong positive impact on issues like transparency and corporate
governance.  Currently, even poor performers are supported by their state
owners and are shielded from shareholders concerns.

HOWSON: It's very, very hot ideologically.  It's very, very hot
commercially because it's going to dilute the state's interest and it's
going to potentially have a very, very big impact on the capital markets.

SMITH: That's one reason test cases are expected before current regulations
are changed.  In the meantime, eager foreign investors and Chinese listed
companies can only hope that Beijing sees the benefits of opening its
markets to the world.  Noah Smith, NIGHTLY BUSINESS REPORT, Beijing.

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