They don't do badly with Art and Culture either.

REH


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> Thanx Pete for this.  In reading the debates over subsidies to European
> agriculture I have always felt that it was a subsidy for a way of life, a
> way of valuing quality over quantity.
>
> arthur
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> On Tue, 10 Dec 2002, Ed Weick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> >Karen, thanks for the piece on rural decline in the US.  Several parts
> >of agricultural Canada are in no better shape.   Increasingly, it does
> >seem that rural areas are dependent for their income on transfers from
> >urban/industrial centres, and not on what they can produce themselves.
> >There remains a mystique about the rural way of life and the family farm,
> >but even that is beginning to wear thin with the growing recognition that
> >many farms are probably no longer viable unless they are heavily
> >subsidized or supported by special marketing arrangements.
>
> Ah, I 've been thinking about fitting this comment in, and this
> seems like a good place: I spent most of the autumn this year
> at a lab in europe (CERN), and got a chance to get a feel for
> the day to day culture over there. As I was flying in, I looked
> over the landscape of France and Germany, on a fortunately clear
> and sunny day. It was achingly beautiful. Despite the high
> population density, the population centres were mostly small
> towns and villages, nestled among farms and woodlots. The
> property boundaries, even in relatively level ground, were
> not the rigid squares of north america, but complex patterns
> reflecting the local features - rivers, hills, old winding roads.
> Perhaps not the most efficiently utilitarian design, but good
> for the soul. While staying near Geneva, I had the opportunity
> to visit a local family for dinner. They have a farm just outside
> a small village, and I spent some time walking about the area,
> noting the seamless meshing of the farming activity with the
> commercial activity of the village; like much of europe, many of
> the buildings are centuries old, but beautiful and well maintained.
> The family I was visiting depends on a subsidy to sustain their farm
> (not the EU subsidy, as this was in Switzerland, but similar).
>
> So I thought about the Canadian prairie farmers being driven
> off their farms by low grain prices (and absense of matching
> Canadian subsidies), and the loss of the small prairie towns.
> Then about what will happen to the beautifully tended european
> countryside and the beautiful villages when subsidies are cut,
> and only large industrial farms will be economical, like the
> ones now appearing coincident with the depopulation of the
> Canadian prairies. Perhaps one of the free trade zealots here
> can paint me a picture of how the brave new world ahead will be
> an improvement...
>                              -Pete Vincent
>

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