Harry, you are such a Scrooge:  Bah, Humbug on all these new fangled energy
projects!

Light bulbs weren't that great when first invented.  Telephones are much
improved, some would say not for our benefit.  Everyone agrees the auto is a
better vehicle for transportation that the family mule, though a mule's
emissions problems didn't impact as wide an area as airborne carbons do now
and it could be recycled.  We don't even want to start a thread about how
much better medical science is that how it was practiced initially.

Your arguments below against newer developments into sustainable energy
projects seem to reflect the bottom line that if it doesn't work for me,
right here in my own backyard, then it is doomed to failure.  Sure, the new
ideas are still being developed and will probably be best used as backups in
the energy grid, but we need all the backups we can use.  I haven't noticed
too many people in California voluntarily riding their bikes to work, using
oil lamps at home unless forced to by blackouts.

Call me a Pollyanna, but I think that attempts to broaden our base for
energy sources should be considered.  No matter that they've just discovered
huge wells of natural gas off the coast of India, (1) or that there may be a
pipeline through northern Russia for its oil in another decade, we have to
look at the needs of the future, not just living off the past.

PacificCorp built a wind farm between Portland and Pendleton, Oregon in 3
months last fall.  Works great and annoys just the birds, not the cows.  PGE
built a smaller-sized urban power plant in 6 months, and it immediately
began acting as a supplement to the bigger plants.  Some cities have tapped
into their underground aquifers to heating city buildings, saving taxpayer
money.  It all adds up, and the supplements are accomplished quickly without
huge voter or corporate commitment.

So they weren't smart enough to put wind farms out in the countryside in S.
California.  The ones between the Bay Area and San Joaquin Valley have been
in place since when, the 70s?  Wouldn't those poles cycling in the wind be a
nicer view interruption than oil rigs off the Southern coastline, say, that
long stretch south of LA known as Camp Pendleton where nobody cares what the
view is anyway?  I am not aware of any windmill pollution or spill dangers.
Since Pendleton is an Army base, there shouldn't be aircraft landing
conflicts.

And if they can't succeed with solar in lovely San Diego, then someone just
had a bad business plan.  Too much of the delay in building new nuclear
power plants is the argument about retooling them and what tax credits can
be had or denied.  Then they take forever to construct and have to be
recertified every 5 years (I think, still), a very time-consuming process.
It's not the R&D, it's the profit line that is cramping the future of
energy.

Bush's energy vision is in the past.  Individual states are moving ahead in
spite of him, not following his leadership (2).  Coal may be plentiful, but
pulling it out of the earth is devastating large swaths of coal country,
polluting rivers and drinking water for many communities.  We have to have
other options besides these old fossils.

To quote Tufts Prof. Agyeman on sustainability, "It isn't rocket science;
it's plain common sense.  It's not about no growth, but a different kind of
growth.  It's about using more of our unlimited mental resources and less of
our limited natural resources.  It's about not using up our natural capital
such as wilderness areas, forests, a fish stock or an aquifer, but living
off the harvest and other ecological services they provide." (3)

Karen
East of Portland, West of the Windmills
1. Big Gas Fields Found in Indian Waters @
http://www.nytimes.com/2002/12/13/business/worldbusiness/13GAS.html.
2. On Global Warming, States Act Locally @
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A36696-2002Nov10.html
3. From Responsibility to Sustainability @
http://www.msnbc.com/news/783068.asp
Harry wrote:  If there was any place that solar power could work, it's in
Southern California, where sunshine is the rule rather than the exception.
Yet, solar power failed here in spite of government subsidy and complete
relief from property taxes.

That eventually it may become less expensive, or non-renewables might become
more expensive may change things, but that's not now.

Even if one forgets the cost, there is still the environmental impact. Both
solar and wind take up enormous areas to produce the same energy as a
modern power station. Wind makes lots of noise and people a mile or more
away are bothered by the continuous onslaught on their ears.

There seem to be only two probabilities - coal and nuclear. The US has coal
that could last us for several thousand years. It can be sent through a
pipeline too, if necessary. Nuclear is a best bet. The technology we are
using is 3-4 decades old. New nuclear furnaces apparently don't require
coolant or containment shells.

Fuel cells are the biggie at the moment even though they produce no power.
(Haven't these people learned anything at school?)

If important people are beginning to discover the uselessness of Kyoto,
could we say they are following a prescient George W. Bush?
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