At 10:33 22/12/02 -0600, Bruce Leier wrote:
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Harry,
I do not know of any energy technology that did not get its start and/or a
big boost through subsidies of some kind.  Oil certainly did.  And nuclear
really did, too.  Do you say those subsidies were "bad"?  Or is it only new
subsidies that are "bad"?  What has changed other than  who are the
economic royalists?  WWHGsay?
>>>>

Oil certainly did not get a start through government subsidies. In the
modern era, it began with a group of private investors in late 1854 who
engaged a brilliant Yale chemist, Prof Silliman, to look into the
properties of the black stuff which oozed out of the ground in many places.
Once Silliman's report was written, the group raised the money and the
first oil company was founded -- the Pennsylvania Rock Oil Company. All
without a cent of government subsidy.

The nuclear industry has certainly required vast government subsidies
because it has been a hopelessly uneconomic proposition from the start. In
terms of ongoing costs it may, in fact, become economic in a decade or two
for a brief period as oil and gas prices start to rise but it would still
need vast government subsidies because private investors can never afford
to cover the costs of cleaning up afterwards. The privatised nuclear
industry in the UK, launched without having to pay a penny towards its
original development costs, has recently gone bankrupt for the second time.
And it will continue likewise as long as it operates. Only second and
third-rate chemists and engineers commit themselves to a career in the
nuclear energy industry.

Keith Hudson

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