Aren't we seeing a pattern here?
\
Remember that the Taliban said they wanted to talk with us, but
we weren't interested.

Rumsfeld has pointed out that Americans want to bring criminals to
trial and either find them guilty and punish them or set them
free, whereas this administration is interested in getting information
out of the people they detain, not in trying them in court.

We are in a "state of emergency" of indefinite duration, which means:
an opportunity for open-ended "development" of policies to
construct rigid structres of obedience to superiors to
plug up potential security holes in the workspace.

WOULD THINGS HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT IN AMERICA TODAY HAD GORE BECOME
PRESIDENT?

I think they would be very different: Gore could not
possibly have screwed up any worse than Bush did.  I mean there
were no more hijacked jumbo jets in the air on "911", and
surely Gore would at a monimum have agreed that he too would
have done everything he could to stop the hijackers had he
known in advance what they were going to do (yes, I have
citation info for this amazing quote from winner-43).

I think the big difference would have been that, if Gore
had found himself forced to go down the road to curtailing Americans'
civil liberties, he would have tried to apply the brake rather
than taking his hands off
the steering wheel (would he have done anything about
America's dependence on Arab oil?  Again, he could not have
done worse than Bush, who at least has not outlawed
non-SUVs).

I don't think that "Heimat" (OK: "Homeland") would have been the
watchword for a Gore administration.  I don't think Gore
would have approached the problem of Iraq from the perspective of
a personal vendetta against "that man tried to kill my Dad".
Gore is not another Ahab.

Gore would have tried to maintain a civil civilian government
for a civil society even in uncivil times.

He might even have done some things right.  But that would have
been a "bonus", in addition to simply not mis-leading us
down the road to crypto-fascism as a possibly
unintended side effect of pursuing a personal Blood Feud.

America, under Bush, has become a petulant parent/schoolmarm.
We don't talk with other nations, we talk to them, and
when they don't join the coalition of the willing,
"We don't understand why you aren't listening." We let them
know what they need to know, which gets us back to\
America "editting" the Iraq WMD document: If we took it
out, it was of no interest to you, and you should thank US
for helping you.

If you don't join the coalition of the willing, you just
wait, Other Sovereign Nations of The World....

\brad mccormick



mcandreb wrote:
Published on Sunday, December 22, 2002 by The Sunday Herald
America Tore Out 8000 Pages of Iraq Dossier
by James Cusick and Felicity Arbuthnot

THE United States edited out more than 8000 crucial pages of Iraq's
11,800-page dossier on weapons, before passing on a sanitized version to
the 10 non-permanent members of the United Nations security council.

The full extent of Washington's complete control over who sees what in
the crucial Iraqi dossier calls into question the allegations made by US
Secretary of State Colin Powell that 'omissions' in the document
constituted a 'material breach' of the latest UN resolution on Iraq.

Also See:
Top-secret Iraq Report Reveals U.S. Corporations, Gov't Agencies and
Nuclear Labs Helped Illegally Arm Iraq
Paifica Radio's Democray Now!
12/18/2002

Last week, Secretary General of the UN Kofi Annan accepted that it was
'unfortunate' that his organization had allowed the US to take the only
complete dossier and edit it. He admitted 'the approach and style were
wrong' and Norway, a member of the security council, says it is being
treated like a 'second-class country'.

Although Powell called the Iraqi dossier a 'catalogue of recycled
information and flagrant omissions', the non-permanent members of the
security council will have no way of testing the US claims for
themselves. This will be crucial if the US and the UK go back to the
security council seeking explicit authorization for war on Iraq if
breaches of resolution 1441 are confirmed when the weapons inspectors --
this weekend investigating 10 sites in Iraq, including an oil refinery
south of Baghdad -- deliver their report to the UN next month.

A UN source in New York said: 'The questions being asked are valid. What
did the US take out? And if weapons inspectors are supposed to be
checking against the dossier's content, how can any future claim be
verified. In effect the US is saying trust us, and there are many who
just will not.'

Current and former UN diplomats are said to be livid at what some have
called the 'theft' of the Iraqi document by the US. Hans von Sponeck,
the former assistant general secretary of the UN and the UN's
humanitarian co- ordinator in Iraq until 2000, said: 'This is an
outrageous attempt by the US to mislead.'

[snip]


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  Let your light so shine before men,
              that they may see your good works.... (Matt 5:16)

  Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. (1 Thes 5:21)

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