Aren't we seeing a pattern here? \ Remember that the Taliban said they wanted to talk with us, but we weren't interested.
Rumsfeld has pointed out that Americans want to bring criminals to trial and either find them guilty and punish them or set them free, whereas this administration is interested in getting information out of the people they detain, not in trying them in court. We are in a "state of emergency" of indefinite duration, which means: an opportunity for open-ended "development" of policies to construct rigid structres of obedience to superiors to plug up potential security holes in the workspace. WOULD THINGS HAVE BEEN DIFFERENT IN AMERICA TODAY HAD GORE BECOME PRESIDENT? I think they would be very different: Gore could not possibly have screwed up any worse than Bush did. I mean there were no more hijacked jumbo jets in the air on "911", and surely Gore would at a monimum have agreed that he too would have done everything he could to stop the hijackers had he known in advance what they were going to do (yes, I have citation info for this amazing quote from winner-43). I think the big difference would have been that, if Gore had found himself forced to go down the road to curtailing Americans' civil liberties, he would have tried to apply the brake rather than taking his hands off the steering wheel (would he have done anything about America's dependence on Arab oil? Again, he could not have done worse than Bush, who at least has not outlawed non-SUVs). I don't think that "Heimat" (OK: "Homeland") would have been the watchword for a Gore administration. I don't think Gore would have approached the problem of Iraq from the perspective of a personal vendetta against "that man tried to kill my Dad". Gore is not another Ahab. Gore would have tried to maintain a civil civilian government for a civil society even in uncivil times. He might even have done some things right. But that would have been a "bonus", in addition to simply not mis-leading us down the road to crypto-fascism as a possibly unintended side effect of pursuing a personal Blood Feud. America, under Bush, has become a petulant parent/schoolmarm. We don't talk with other nations, we talk to them, and when they don't join the coalition of the willing, "We don't understand why you aren't listening." We let them know what they need to know, which gets us back to\ America "editting" the Iraq WMD document: If we took it out, it was of no interest to you, and you should thank US for helping you. If you don't join the coalition of the willing, you just wait, Other Sovereign Nations of The World.... \brad mccormick mcandreb wrote:
Published on Sunday, December 22, 2002 by The Sunday Herald America Tore Out 8000 Pages of Iraq Dossier by James Cusick and Felicity Arbuthnot THE United States edited out more than 8000 crucial pages of Iraq's 11,800-page dossier on weapons, before passing on a sanitized version to the 10 non-permanent members of the United Nations security council. The full extent of Washington's complete control over who sees what in the crucial Iraqi dossier calls into question the allegations made by US Secretary of State Colin Powell that 'omissions' in the document constituted a 'material breach' of the latest UN resolution on Iraq. Also See: Top-secret Iraq Report Reveals U.S. Corporations, Gov't Agencies and Nuclear Labs Helped Illegally Arm Iraq Paifica Radio's Democray Now! 12/18/2002 Last week, Secretary General of the UN Kofi Annan accepted that it was 'unfortunate' that his organization had allowed the US to take the only complete dossier and edit it. He admitted 'the approach and style were wrong' and Norway, a member of the security council, says it is being treated like a 'second-class country'. Although Powell called the Iraqi dossier a 'catalogue of recycled information and flagrant omissions', the non-permanent members of the security council will have no way of testing the US claims for themselves. This will be crucial if the US and the UK go back to the security council seeking explicit authorization for war on Iraq if breaches of resolution 1441 are confirmed when the weapons inspectors -- this weekend investigating 10 sites in Iraq, including an oil refinery south of Baghdad -- deliver their report to the UN next month. A UN source in New York said: 'The questions being asked are valid. What did the US take out? And if weapons inspectors are supposed to be checking against the dossier's content, how can any future claim be verified. In effect the US is saying trust us, and there are many who just will not.' Current and former UN diplomats are said to be livid at what some have called the 'theft' of the Iraqi document by the US. Hans von Sponeck, the former assistant general secretary of the UN and the UN's humanitarian co- ordinator in Iraq until 2000, said: 'This is an outrageous attempt by the US to mislead.'
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