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Ed Weick
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With all due respect to Thomas Friedman, the situation is a little more complicated than that.  Yes, indeed, the Middle East is replete with young people who are willing to turn themselves into missiles rather than tolerate life as it is.  However, how many regimes throughout the region will have to be taken out, and how many countries democratized, before conditions are improved to the point where young people see life on earth, not in paradise, as their best hope?  It is just possible, more likely probable, that Saddam Hussein is something of a hero to the non-Iraqi young because, unlike their regimes, he has stood up to the Americans.  The Egyptian government receives $2 billion a year in civil and military assistance from the US as a good-behaviour reward for having signed a peace treaty with Israel.  How much of this money goes to alleviating the staggering poverty of the country versus the pockets of the rich?  The House of Saud has grown enormously wealthy by pumping oil to the west and, even though it has done little for Saudi Arabia's ordinary citizens, it is well able to meet its historic obligations to the Wahhabist movement, one of the world's most potent generators of terrorism.  Kuwait is seen as totally under the American thumb while Jordan, which lies immediately east of Israel, is supposedly an American ally, but with its large, impoverished Palestinian population, it is a potential powder keg. How will any of this be solved by taking out Saddam?  It is far more likely that it will be greatly aggravated.
 
Ed

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Sent: Sunday, January 26, 2003 12:46 PM
Subject: Towards a sustainable balance

Greetings from the Pacific Northwest, where the East winds have abated and we are socked in with gentle rain. 

Everyone is trying to get their two cents in print before the President’s speech writers are finished with the final copy of the State of the Union speech, hoping to influence the thinking and presentation of an important, time-sensitive public policy moment that will be gleaned for the smallest details between the lines.  Friedman puts a lot of things into perspective we can understand while raising some contentious issues that need to be aired.

We are discussing consequences here, not just morality about preemptive force.  Conservatives used to have a strong voice on the intended and unintended consequences of government.  Today, with this White House, they have lost that edge.  Karen Watters Cole

The earlier column is at http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/22/opinion/22FRIE.html  I urge you to read it also if this subject is important to you.  

Excerpt from that:  What liberals fail to recognize is that regime change in Iraq is not some distraction from the war on Al Qaeda. That is a bogus argument. And simply because oil is also at stake in Iraq doesn't make it illegitimate either. Some things are right to do, even if Big Oil benefits.

Although President Bush has cast the war in Iraq as being about disarmament — and that is legitimate — disarmament is not the most important prize there. Regime change is the prize. Regime transformation in Iraq could make a valuable contribution to the war on terrorism, whether Saddam is ousted or enticed into exile.” 

Thinking About Iraq (II)

By Thomas L. Friedman, NYT, 01.26.03 @ http://www.nytimes.com/2003/01/26/opinion/26FRIE.html

In my column on Wednesday I laid out why I believe that liberals underestimate how ousting Saddam Hussein could help spur positive political change in the Arab world.  Today's column explores why conservative advocates of ousting Saddam underestimate the risks, and where we should strike the balance.

 

Let's start with one simple fact: Iraq is a black box that has been sealed shut since Saddam came to dominate Iraqi politics in the late 1960's.  Therefore, one needs to have a great deal of humility when it comes to predicting what sorts of bats and demons may fly out if the U.S. and its allies remove the lid.  Think of it this way: If and when we take the lid off Iraq, we will find an envelope inside.  It will tell us what we have won and it will say one of two things.

 

It could say, "Congratulations! You've just won the Arab Germany — a country with enormous human talent, enormous natural resources, but with an evil dictator, whom you've just removed.  Now, just add a little water, a spoonful of democracy and stir, and this will be a normal nation very soon."

 

Or the envelope could say, "You've just won the Arab Yugoslavia — an artificial country congenitally divided among Kurds, Shiites, Sunnis, Nasserites, leftists and a host of tribes and clans that can only be held together with a Saddam-like iron fist. Congratulations, you're the new Saddam."

 

In the first scenario, Iraq is the way it is today because Saddam is the way he is.  In the second scenario, Saddam is the way he is because Iraq is what it is.  Those are two very different problems.  And we will know which we've won only when we take off the lid.  The conservatives and neo-cons, who have been pounding the table for war, should be a lot more humble about this question, because they don't know either.

 

Does that mean we should rule out war?  No.  But it does mean that we must do it right.  To begin with, the president must level with the American people that we may indeed be buying the Arab Yugoslavia, which will take a great deal of time and effort to heal into a self-sustaining, progressive, accountable Arab government.  And, therefore, any nation-building in Iraq will be a multiyear marathon, not a multiweek sprint.

 

Because it will be a marathon, we must undertake this war with the maximum amount of international legitimacy and U.N. backing we can possibly muster.  Otherwise we will not have an American public willing to run this marathon, and we will not have allies ready to help us once we're inside (look at all the local police and administrators Europeans now contribute in Bosnia and Kosovo).  We'll also become a huge target if we're the sole occupiers of Iraq.

 

In short, we can oust Saddam Hussein all by ourselves.  But we cannot successfully rebuild Iraq all by ourselves.  And the real prize here is a new Iraq that would be a progressive model for the whole region.  That, for me, is the only morally and strategically justifiable reason to support this war.  The Bush team dare not invade Iraq simply to install a more friendly dictator to pump us oil.  And it dare not simply disarm Iraq and then walk away from the nation-building task.

 

Unfortunately, when it comes to enlisting allies, the Bush team is its own worst enemy.  It has sneered at many issues the world cares about: the Kyoto accords, the World Court, arms control treaties.  The Bush team had legitimate arguments on some of these issues, but the gratuitous way it dismissed them has fueled anti-Americanism.  No, I have no illusions that if the Bush team had only embraced Kyoto the French wouldn't still be trying to obstruct America in Iraq.  The French are the French.  But unfortunately, now the Germans are the French, the Koreans are the French, and many Brits are becoming French.

 

Things could be better, but here is where we are — so here is where I am: My gut tells me we should continue the troop buildup, continue the inspections and do everything we can for as long as we can to produce either a coup or the sort of evidence that will give us the broadest coalition possible, so we can do the best nation-building job possible.

 

But if war turns out to be the only option, then war it will have to be — because I believe that our kids will have a better chance of growing up in a safer world if we help put Iraq on a more progressive path and stimulate some real change in an Arab world that is badly in need of reform.  Such a war would indeed be a shock to this region, but, if we do it right, there is a decent chance that it would be shock therapy.

 

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