Almost every panel and workshop that I sit on has someone who wants to know why I'm not getting some of that Casino money.    When I tell them that there is a common spiritual thread that runs through all of our communities as well as to the other Shamanic peoples of the world including the Buddhists in Tibet but that we are all individual peoples and that in North and Central America there were over 500 different nations as well as 500 different languages they look at me as if I was daft.    "You guys are Indians!"   In fact if you look real hard around Europe you will find all kinds of Indian Villages with Europeans telling us what we are and how we live.  It happens here as well.    I've had people who come to me for learning on this go away and read a book and then come back telling me that I'm wrong and I not only am it but I have the detritus of this country to prove it.  
 
I've had foundations including music foundations suggest that if we are Native American in our Art then we should look to the Casinos to fund our projects as if we weren't American.   
 
But if I say that the common religion and common language of the Arabic peoples would seem to make them relatives or one people and that they should share some of that oil money with their various brothers in need, then I get bashed.   Chris just spoke of balance.    There is no balance on this list.    Everyone is against the Israelis with maybe one other exception.  
 
In my experience with all of the different immigrant groups in all of the places I've been there are a couple of "givens."    Jews help each other.    Jews seem to be connected to one another.    They fight between the levels of orthodoxy but they help each other in relation to the outside world.     What is going on with the Arabs?     If they don't help each other, why don't they?     There is more distance between any of the Indian peoples than there is between the Arabic peoples.   
 
Just look up Arab languages on the Internet for languages and culture.   They seem very clear about their connection in every way except in "helping each other" in business.     
 
Unless we are speaking of "Palestine".      Where did Palestine come from?    What are its traditions?    Its cultures?    How is it different from say the state of Lebanon, Syria, Jordan, Egypt,  Saudi Arabia, Iran, Iraq, from the Kurds?     How old are these States?    I'm not being rhetorical, I'm truly trying to understand your information.    Frankly I don't have time to read all of the books that Lawry recommended and I didn't ask for them.   I will accept his word on what they say.    But diplomacy and politics seems perfectly capable of creating a world according to whatever anyone happens to want. 
 
 I'm also concerned with being fair.    I have always been for "reparations".       For the Arabs from the Israeli government, for the Blacks and Indians here, for the Gypsies in Europe, for the Jews from Germany and France.   Hell, I think the Soviet Union owes American Artists for all that money we had to spend in Europe to defeat them.   We paid taxes, the wealthy would never dream of.     I was not for reparations for the Japanese because I thought they should have been given back the land, businesses and homes that was taken from them period.    They should have had all property returned unless they were spys and the spys should be in prison.    
 
I'm for reparations for the others and soon because it becomes impossible as the population grows.   I don't think that America needs the equivalent of a Kurdish or Basque population in this country that will down airliners and blow up gatherings.   Or maybe a second Middle East or Northern Ireland.  
 
As for land?   Sometimes people don't get what they want.    That is what money is for.  It is a substitute for war.   I find it disingenuous for any European - who didn't fight the Reich all the way and knew about  Auschwitz and the other camps and still agreed to some sort of accommodation with such monstrous evil as took over Germany - to complain about anything.   Whenever the Beast arises it is the world's job to stop it.    If the world doesn't defend civilization at such times then they are for its opposite.  
 
Frankly, I don't know what the Israelis can do.    They are stuck in a classic double bind and they are not going to commit suicide no matter how many of us on this list would prefer they do so.     I understand about friends and past relationships.   I have them too and many of them have been destroyed by the very countries and groups that each of you like.    It is just too easy when the shoe is on the other foot to believe that you are the first to ever experience that process. 
 
Anyway Israel is there and that is a fact.   We have all had to accept the fact that people move in next door that we don't respect or like.   Sometimes its them and sometimes its us.   The point is to work out a social contract where the two of you can live together.   There is a group of Israelis who will have to be disciplined by their own citizens because they are troublemakers or sent back where they immigrated from.    But by and large  I believe Israelis would stop the war today if they were guaranteed secure borders and they would help the Palestinians to develop their own world as well.   I believe that and I know these people as well as many of you know the people in the orchards and mud huts.   
 
I have a lot of respect for indigenous peoples and their wisdom.   I am one of those "mud hut" people myself.   I also know that driving an entire ancient people into the Mediterranean Sea to perish would forever destroy any righteousness that Islam could claim for itself, at least in this Indian's eyes.   I will also admit that those Jews like Sharon, Begin and yes Rabin are the Pattons of the world, warriors who love war.   I would suggest that had we not had a few of those ourselves during the second world war nothing would have kept Hitler from being the senior politician in today's Europe.   I'm sure he had ideas not only for the big ones like France and England but for the lovely Mountains as well.    Without the Pattons, the Montgomery's the Churchill's Europe would have been vastly changed.   GWBush like Texan LBJ before him see themselves in that mold.    Personally I was an Omar Bradley admirer myself.    I got to meet and even know some of these people during my six years in Washington and sang for the ailing Eisenhower.  
 
I would also point out that this part of the world is not the only place where Islam is having trouble with their neighbors.   I don't like the Christians and Orthodox Judaism's attitudes about a lot of things not the least women and gays but the metaphor of Jihad that took Islam across a large part of the known world and that is still a part of orthodox Islam's sacred myths is, a Pandora's Box just waiting for a demagogue (or child) with a bomb.   
 
One last thing and then I'm out of this discussion.   To date, I cannot find one constructive futurist suggestion for the resolution of that war on this list.   Basically we are all just looking backwards and making "wrong."    That is useless and I think it would show us all in a better scholastic light if we would just to admit we have no solutions.   Unless you have been holding back in which case "bring forth."     I would like to hear how you would see this resolved.     War should be at least as easy as figuring out how to work and create jobs.   
 
Best 
 
Ray Evans Harrell         
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From: G. Stewart
Sent: Monday, January 27, 2003 1:31 PM
Subject: Modern communications

Lawry,
 
Your posting reminded me of my father many years ago pointing out to me, and commenting on its significance, a picture of an Arab mounted on a camel and carrying a portable radio. The photo appears in "The Family of Man"* so the practice of being "tuned in" that you mention is likely not only common but may have existed for a generation or two or three. 
 
Meanwhile, from wherever we stand, the practice of reducing "the other" to caricature-like simplicities continues, despite the best efforts of people like Edward J. Steichen.
 
*"The greatest photographic exhibition of all times, created by Edward J. Steichen in 1955 for the Museum of Modern Art in New York" http://www.clervaux-city.lu/Familyofman.htm
 
 
Regards,
 
Gail
 
Gail Stewart
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