Harry, Thanks for the info. BTW, with my focus professionally on public health, I generally don't put a lot of weight on survivors since most people will not be affected by most health problems. Winston Churchill, who broke very good health rule, is a good example. On the other hand, the US military has been superb in doing cover ups and is probably the worst polluter in the country. Perhaps we can be happy that the French are not as motivated for war since oil is not such a big thing to them.
Obviously, were the US a better steward of energy sources and more conservation-oriented, these issues probably would not be dominating the world today. Bill On Sat, 15 Feb 2003 12:27:43 -0800 Harry Pollard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > > Bill, > > My Senior Chief son-in-law is retired from submarines after 20 years > - in > perfect health after lots of nuclear experience. No mention of > tumors, or > anything else. With the many hundreds of ships that are now nuclear > powered, if there were serious problems, it seems unlikely that so > many > years have gone by without thousands of seamen complaining of > growing two > heads or something. Yet, the stories persist. > > As someone said (actually it was me) when the anti-nuke protesters > came > from San Diego to protest San Onofre - the three unit generating > facility > about 30 miles north of San Diego - it would have made more sense to > live > at San Onofre and protest San Diego with perhaps dozens of nuclear > plants > and nuclear weapons in the harbor. > > I'll hop past your cites which seem to be, not nuclear power plants, > but > government nuclear weapons plants - and point out that the present > nuclear > industry is paying for cleanups with a extra levee on every watt of > produced electricity (about 0.1 cent per kWh). It's in a previous > post of > mine, but from memory, I recall that US plants were about $12 > billion away > from the complete cost of all cleanups of all existing nuclear power > plants > - with many years of collection yet to go. > > In fact, the Nuclear Regulatory Commission reported that all power > reactor > licensees appear to be on track to fund decommissioning by the time > they > permanently shut down their units. > > However, Keith pointed to the upcoming high costs of > decommissioning, so > perhaps the Brits have messed things up. > > Incidentally, a good place to check is France which gets more than > 70% of > its electricity from nuclear - it may be as much as 75% but figures > I've > seen are confusing. They use large standardized plants which reduce > costs. > Comparison of costs in Euro cents/kWh are: nuclear 3.20, gas > 3.05-4.26, > coal 3.81-4.57. > > Here are a couple of electricity cost projections I don't understand > for > 2005-2010. > > NUCLEAR COAL GAS > (Costs per kWh) > > USA 3.33 2.48 2.33-2.71 > Canada 2.47-2.96 2.92 3.00 > > Why is Canadian nuclear cost lower? Why is Canadian gas higher? > > It's a puzzlement. > > Harry > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > William wrote: > > >Harry, > > > >I thought the 'Trench lot' issue was behind us. > > > >Seriously, though, my son was a great proponent of nuclear [or > 'Nucular' > >if you are a Republican] power when he entered the Navy's Nuke > program. I > >kept sending him stories about crazy folks who would play in the > stuff to > >demonstrate that there was no danger plus a lot of recent [at that > time] > >research reports which presented very negative positions on > nuclear. > >About a year or so into his training, he turned around completely > and > >started telling me stories of tumors growing on the heads of > sailors who > >hung out near waste water plumbing too long. > > > >While carbon-based fuels are too valuable to be burned up in autos > [as > >per Shah Reza Pahlavi], the costs of cleaning up supposedly cleaner > >nuclear are becoming overwhelming, viz: > > > > http://www.witnesstothefuture.com/meet/hanford.html > > > > > >http://www.tennessean.com/sii/longterm/oakridge/part3/stories/rocky.shtm l > > > >Decommissioning of nuclear plants in the Pacific Northwest will > burden > >Oregonians with high energy costs for decades to come. > > > >Bill Ward > > > ****************************** > Harry Pollard > Henry George School of LA > Box 655 > Tujunga CA 91042 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Tel: (818) 352-4141 > Fax: (818) 353-2242 > ******************************* > > ________________________________________________________________ Sign Up for Juno Platinum Internet Access Today Only $9.95 per month! Visit www.juno.com _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://scribe.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework
