Keith you said:
> I think this war is an abomination and has been started for ulterior
motives
> which are all to do with the meeting of the National Security Council
which
> met on Deptember 12 2001 and put the security of Iraqi oil at the top of
> the agenda not to do with any of the various fictitious reasons that have
> been advanced since.

Great story Keith well said.

As I've been watching the Stock Market respond positively to the war I have
been reminded of a comment by Keynes that I can't find to quote.    But it
went something like this:   "Wars are one of the ways that we rescue ailing
economys."  If the quote isn't Keynes perhaps you economists could correct
me and if it is I would be interested in the source.   Either way this war
is going to not kill as many of the population as in the past so that won't
help the labor market but it will destroy a lot of hardware that will need
to be replaced and then there are all of those claims against America by
Iraqis not to mention the oil and the brand new infra-structure that we will
finance as we did in Europe.    Of course over here it will continue to go
to pot as the Arts have done and as they let the Steel Mills in Youngstown,
Ohio and the many factory companies in New York City that are closing up
shop with antiquated equipment and no capital.     Everyone here is looking
to be laid off.    Of course if they work for Halliburton they won't be and
the industries for Iraq will get a big shot in the arm.    They may even get
the wealthy to invest that money they are getting back if Bush gets his tax
breaks through and if it all works and as Nixon said:  "They are all
Keynsians now."   then we may get a little relief from the constant
Neo-classical crowing from the Friedman school but I doubt it.     Chicago
never could get over being second.

Researching Keynes life it is interesting to see how many times the two
parties have traded places.   The problem with Bush may not be what he's
doing but that his reasons for doing them are unconscious and poorly evolved
due to his mediocrity.     Did anyone see the Republican "Leni Riefenstal"
Frank Luntz in Turkey tonight.    He looked like he had been hit in the face
by the power of the disagreement of the young Turks speaking in Luntz's
native tongue more articulately than many of the Americans in his focus
groups back home.    They weren't shaped by his words being endlessly
repeated by the corporate media back here as our citizens have been.

REH

PS Harry, don't I remember you blaming Gray Davis for the California energy
disaster?    Seems the law didn't agree with you since they have fined
almost every single energy company in America for bilking California.    It
may have been bad law but I suspect they were caught in an R.D. Lang "Knot."
They were afraid that deregulation would make fools of them so they created
a bad deregulation that made it easier for that to be accomplished.   Give
me a good old fashioned despot any time compare to that. (just kidding of
course).   REH

"Fear is the enemy"    Frank Herbert

----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Hudson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Harry Pollard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 2:56 PM
Subject: Silk parachutes ( was Re: [Futurework] B52s overhead again last
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> Harry,
>
> At 10:04 25/03/03 -0800, you wrote:
> (HP)
> >Keith,
> >
> >Those "land mines" came down with parachutes so they burst above ground.
> >They were terrifying.
>
> Yes, each one was capable of destroying several houses and digging a hole
> several yards deep. Amazingly, the three land mines that dropped in our
> street didn't explode and it was considered that they were magnetic. In
> fact, my father (who was a policemen and had decided to patrol his own
> street during the raid) had to pull one neighbour away from the landmine
in
> his garden because he'd got out his stepladder and garden shears and was
> about to mount the landmine and cut off the parachute (for reasons of
> strength, the parachutes were made of silk -- much desired by the ladies).
>
> It wasn't until a year or two ago that I discovered why our batch of
> landmines didn't explode. They were made by 'slave labour' in Polish
> factories under the supervision of German SS guards. The Poles quietly
> sabotaged the detonators whenever they could. I owe my life to some
unknown
> Pole (or two) because two of the landmines were within a few yards on our
> house where I was under the stairs with my brother. I would certainly have
> been killed had either of them exploded. When my mother was in the garden
> and saw the landmines coming down she thought the parachutes were German
> troops, but she said nothing to us thinking we would have been scared. But
> we probably wouldn't have been (see below).
>
> (HP)
> >While you were experiencing the bombing in Coventry, I was camping on the
> >outskirts.
> >
> >When the bombs began to fall, a platoon of WAAFS about a quarter mile
away
> >were struggling to get their barrage balloon up in the sky. Shrill voices
> >shouting in the night - which carried to the kid in the tent - eventually
> >got the balloon up in the sky. Being stupidly young, I watched the
bombing
> >(in an open field) and enjoyed the efforts of the ladies as they got
their
> >balloon in place.
>
> Cor, you've reminded me of those strange things. There were hundreds of
> them all over the place. But I don't suppose they downed a single bomber.
> I guess they were mainly for psychological reasons. No . . . I suppose
they
> stopped low level straffing.
>
> After one daylight raid, one German bomber flew only a yard or two over
the
> chimney pots of the houses in the next street from us. My brother and I
> heard it from the distance and ran out into the garden to see it. Being
> only 5 and 8 years old respectively we thought this was very exciting and
> waved wildly to the German pilot, hoping he would wave back. We could see
> him clearly through the glass cockpit bubble with his goggles and all. But
> he was, in fact, in desperate trouble with failed engines and he landed
> only a little distance away in the local park, crashing throught the
> bandstand as he did so. He died, of course.  He'd jettisoned his bombs on
a
> playing field about a quarter of a mile away. I think he did so in case he
> crashed into houses -- if so, a real gentleman.
>
> (HP)
> >We were both too young then to have a beer together - something I hope
will
> >be remedied this summer.
>
> I look forward to meeting you if you come here. But bear in mind that I
> think this war is an abomination and has been started for ulterior motives
> which are all to do with the meeting of the National Security Council
which
> met on Deptember 12 2001 and put the security of Iraqi oil at the top of
> the agenda not to do with any of the various fictitious reasons that have
> been advanced since.
>
> Keith Hudson
>
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