Harry, I'm glad to hear that it had nothing to do with William of Orange or all of those Scots and English who lorded it over the poor Catholics and who eventually came to be the majority in Northern Ireland. All of those plays and movies were SOOO wrong. They were just all good Irish who disagreed about economics and government rather than religion and ethnicity. How very neat.
As for the boxes, they just dug them up in conjunction with Iran for repatriation but they had a war instead. Talk about a double bind Harry. Are you really so unsure of yourself in this that you can't accept anything that doesn't cast the Iraqis and their government in the very worst possible light? REH ----- Original Message ----- From: "Harry Pollard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Ray Evans Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [Futurework] FWD: Lots of numbers for Harry to play with > Ray, > > The problems that led to the troubles in Ulster were two - socialism and > democracy. > > Socialism because the poor were provided with 'council houses'. These were > apportioned by local councils. Probably the best thing that Thatcher did > was to allow council house tenants to buy - to let them be homeowners > instead of perpetual renters. > > But, in Ulster, Protestants outnumbered Catholics two to one, so they won > most of the councils in proper democratic fashion. This meant the Catholics > were out of luck with houses and other socialistic goodies. Hence the troubles. > > The Brits didn't want to get into this at all. Rather as a policeman > doesn't like to break up a family quarrel as it's likely that both of them > will then attack him. However, even as in wartime Southern Ireland was > welcoming the German Ambassador, so were the Northern Irish supporting the > war effort. Probably saved a few American lives too as they poked out into > the Atlantic getting us closer to the U-Boats and increasing the area that > could be patrolled by planes. > > So, the Brits couldn't just say 'get lost'. They had to do something. Of > course this meant they became thoroughly disliked by both sides. > > Your conjunction of the 'bones' and Chicago was apt. Apparently, some of > the skulls showed evidence of bullet wounds. > > Now, that's Chicago - or it used to be. > > Karen tells us that the bodies are not a few years old but may go back to > the war with Iran. I wonder why they are still there? > > Harry > > --------------------------------------------- > > Ray wrote: > > >Harry, > > > >Some good stuff. You now are repeating what I said about the Kuwait war. > >Meanwhile, there is the belief that since Sadaam didn't blow the dam that he > >was disorganized. Maybe or maybe (as in the case of not have the legions > >in Baghdad), he was being French. He seemed very proud of both the city > >and the city's history. It doesn't fit with the psychological profile of > >the man since he has been played as being outside of the tradition of > >Islamic Despots. Don't think so. If anything he is probably the most > >Western of the Arab country leaders. America is involved in reducing any > >thing that he might have done that was good back to pre-Sadaam times. So, > >maybe he only hates those who hate him and would work against him. > >Doesn't sound so different from the local "thugs" we have running this > >government with their families. What Republican doesn't have a son or > >daughter working in the Civil Service they love to denigrate? What is it > >they say "Don't just listen to what I say, watch what I do!" and I'm > >doing just that. > > > >I suspect Sadaam is set for a continuing Guerilla war run from outside Iraq > >once he is dead and extended to the greater Islamic world. I believed him > >when he got up to pray in the middle of an interview. I didn't give him > >any credit for doing so but I didn't think he was lying. Northern > >Ireland didn't need Ian Paesley to keep it going but it helped. All it > >needed was fanatics and troops from outside the country. Or as a New > >Yorker once said about the man White America loved to denigrate while he was > >alive Adam Clayton Powell. "Sure he's corrupt but he's our corrupt. Its > >nobody else's business!" So NOT blowing the dam and keeping the Guard out > >of the city is a plus with the people who live in front of the dam and have > >their homes in the city. As for those boxes of bones, they could be > >anything. Blow up Chicago and pack the contents of the city morgue in > >boxes and you would have more than 200. Not only that but Chicago and > >Baghdad are about the same size. Or it could be those Baathest party > >members who tried to depose him and he kept them around like Asaad did the > >stones in that Palestinian city of 75,000 that he reduced to rubble. They > >do things differently over there. Stoned any women recently for adultery? > >No but they have and they think it is OK. Then again, I haven't seen a > >single NOW representitive protesting what aborigines do to teenage boys > >private parts either. You don't know? I'll write you in gory detail but > >privately. The world is complicated and you got half way there. > > > >REH > > > >PS I would suggest you read Jay Haley's book "The Power Politics of Jesus > >Christ" if you want to get a sense of the way thought often connects to > >martyrdom in the Middle East. Jesus' Martyrdom launched Christianity and > >has lasted for 2,000 years. We might not think that way but that doesn't > >mean they don't. > > > ****************************** > Harry Pollard > Henry George School of LA > Box 655 > Tujunga CA 91042 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Tel: (818) 352-4141 > Fax: (818) 353-2242 > ******************************* > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.467 / Virus Database: 266 - Release Date: 4/1/2003 > _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://scribe.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework
