[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Darryl,
I believe there is a percentage of people in the U.S. that are so angry at so many things in their own country that were wrong or they have no power over and cannot change that they need an scapegoat and any opposition to that scapegoating will not be brooked and may turn the angry mob against the well-intentioned information giver.
arthur
I think this rings true. Is this what Freud called sublimation?
[snip]

I think "sublimation" is a complex and possibly plural
notion (i.e., there may be a number of different
kinds of sublimation).

I think the kind Freud most often had in mind does not
apply to the current situation.  It is the way that
children give up their autochthonous desires as a tradeoff
for gaining real "bennies":  A young man becomes a model
miliktary school cadet --> and eventually does become a
general, having been all the other steps of commissioned
officer along the way.  Not quite "straight", but not
an entirely one-sided transaction either (i.e., the
individual got some rewards as well as the system getting
the infividual's energies).

I personally like my own metaphorical interpretation
of alchemical (and even chemical...) sublimation, where
a substance changes from solid to ethereal state without
passing thru an intermediate soggy (liquid) condition.
On my model, the infant would go from infantile polymorphous
perversity to tantric sexual ecstasy without an intervening
period of sexual repression and frustration (etc.).

I don't think that "sublimation" has much relevance
to persons like Mr. Timothy McVeigh and Mr. Mohammad Atta.
The price on their souls is too high, and perhaps their
souls really are not for sale.  (The NYT ran a fine
story on the origin of Mohammad Atta and his
compeers, which I have summarized at:

http://www.users.cloud9.net/~bradmcc/quotes.html#Q85

It should be remembered that Atta and his colleagues
submitted their bodies to the seductions of the Sirens
(American sexualized popular culture),
without any binding like Odysseus used to protect himself
from his desires, and they
carried out their life purpose nonetheless.

\brad mccormick


-- Let your light so shine before men, that they may see your good works.... (Matt 5:16)

Prove all things; hold fast that which is good. (1 Thes 5:21)

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