Ray, sometimes it works:
 

as told in Patricia de Fuentes, ed. and trans., The Conquistadors. First Person Accounts of the Conquest of Mexico, 159.

… Cort�s … After occupying Tenochtitl�n (Mexico City) … he and his troops had to fight their way out of the city to sanctuary …. Years later … a former follower of Cort�s who had become a Dominician friar, recalled the terrible retreat …. "When the Christians were exhausted from war, God saw fit to send the Indians smallpox, and there was a great pestilence in the city. . . ."

Ed Weick

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Subject: [Futurework] The definition of things

In my culture, such things described in the article below are what we call "dark" religion or in English its "witchcraft".    Something that bears no relationship to Wikke or any of the nature religions.   It is using the spiritual connection for war or manipulation of another person's life through accessing the spiritual.    They have to choose their own path but wishing some one ill in another's life path for your own benefit is the most cynical of activities.   We would call it a curse, Robertson calls it a miracle.    Superstition is tough.   We should not forget that Robertson got his degree from Yale University.   Maybe Brad is right about the quality of public educational institutions.   Of course Yale is private.    Anyone else we know and love go to Yale?
 
REH  
 
 
 
Associated Press, July 14, 2003
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/07/15/politics/main563247.shtml
Praying For Supreme Court Shake Up
       VIRGINIA BEACH, Va. – Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson urged his
nationwide audience Monday to pray for God to remove three justices from the
Supreme Court so they could be replaced by conservatives.
       ''We ask for miracles in regard to the Supreme Court,'' Robertson said
on the Christian Broadcasting Network's ''The 700 Club.''
       Robertson has launched a 21-day ''prayer offensive'' directed at the
Supreme Court in the wake of its 6-3 June vote that decriminalized sodomy. 
Robertson said in a letter on the CBN Web site that the ruling ''has opened the
door to homosexual marriage, bigamy, legalized prostitution and even incest.''
       The same letter targets three justices in particular: ''One justice is
83-years-old, another has cancer and another has a heart condition.  Would it
not be possible for God to put it in the minds of these three judges that the
time has come to retire?''
       Judging from the descriptions, Robertson was referring to Justice John
Paul Stevens, who was born in 1920, and Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg, who had
colon cancer surgery in 1999.  The identity of the third justice was unclear.

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