This kind of thing gets even worse in a large organization.  In my days as a
policy wonk in the Canadian public servant I spent very little time
wondering what I believed and a great deal of time wondering what the
Minister, his Deputy and his Assistant Deputy believed, and whether they all
believed the same thing.

Ed Weick

> Stephen Straker wrote:
>
> [snip]
> > When a pollster surveying scientific literacy asks one of us
> > whether the earth moves or not, do we not say, "It moves"?
> > Does that mean that we *believe* that it moves? Could we
> > advance good reasons why someone who thinks it rests should
> > change his mind? Do we actually *care* whether it moves or
> > not? Would not the *right* answer be "I don't *know*
> > anything about it and I don't care"? Do we not say we
> > believe it moves because the priests say that it moves and
> > we don't want to be thought of as pitifully ignorant of what
> > the priests say? Is "belief" really the proper term for
> > talking about what we say most of the time? Or should we
> > change radically what we *mean* by the word "believe"??
>
> I've written about this in past.  I have proposed that
> people today believe the earth is round and moves
> in prety much the same way they believed it was
> flat and did not move, in past.
>
> I wholeheartedly agree that the right answer to
> the question is something like: "I don't *know*
> anything about it and I don't care" -- But can
> you imagine the posible social/political consequences
> of "people" (i.e., the 6 billions, or even just
> the U.S.A. 250-300 millions of them) actually
> thinking this?  "I don't know anything about Iraq
> and I don't care, so I'm not going to go there
> to get shot at, breathe toxic materials and
> maybe get kiled or maimed or disabled."
>
> Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori!  And of
> course we are not ignorant people who think the
> earth is the cener of the universe and the
> bowl of the stars whizzes around us once each
> day....
>
> But let's not forget the *shame* factor: People
> do a lot of things they don't at least initially
> believe in, but due to fear of being ostracized,
> they "come around"....
>
> \brad mccormick
>
> >
> > Does GW Bush really believe that Jesus is his personal
> > Saviour and favourite philosopher? Does Dr Wolfowitz believe
> > what he says? Does Henry Kissinger?
> >
> > And so, in just the sense that Prof Latour intended it,
> >
> >>(We have never yet really been modern.)
> >
> >
> > best wishes,
> >
> > Stephen Straker
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Vancouver, B.C.
> >
> >
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>                that they may see your good works.... (Matt 5:16)
>
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