We are into a "mail loop" that is likely not to end.

Life is not about a or b.  Life is about a and b.  

I agree with some of Sharon's actions, some of Bush's actions, even some of
Clinton's actions.

arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: William B Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 10:14 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Futurework] Picture juxtaposing tradition, advanced
technolo gy, and [benign] law enforcement


Arthur,

I have to jump in on that one.

There are a lot of Jews who are against Israeli policies in Palestine.
Also, Palestinians are Semitic.

Since it is a free world, people can be called anti-Semitic if they
challenge Israeli policies. To call such
individuals, however, anti-Semitic is not, IMHO,  even in the long-term
interests of Israel.

Do you identify with the actions of Ariel Sharon?

Bill
 
On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 08:52:03 -0400 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> I was waiting for you to "weigh in" Chris.
> 
> What is anti-Israel but not anti-semitic?  I guess a clear thinking 
> Swiss
> citizen.  
> 
> arthur
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 9:21 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Futurework] Picture juxtaposing tradition, advanced
> technology, and [benign] law enforcement
> 
> 
> > The man in black is thinking how to make money with a device like 
> that
> > and/or how to use it against the palestinians.
> > Salvador S�nchez
> 
> Arthur Cordell wrote:
> > I don't associate anti-semitic statements with hispanics.  I guess 
> I was
> > wrong.
> 
> See, Arthur, generalizations are wrong.  ;-}
> 
> There are anti-Semites everywhere.  Even in Israel.
> 
> 
> Salvador S�nchez continued:
> > But I would say that for most of
> > Mexico City people, jews are non-integrated, money oriented people 
> who
> hate
> > palestine people. Maybe it�s a PR problem.
> 
> There's a proverb that "99% of lawyers give the others a bad name."
> I think that's all the more a reason to appreciate the other 1%.
> In the context of this thread, that's courageous individuals like
> Noam Chomsky, Tanya Reinhart, Eduardo Cohen, Uri Avnery, Norman
> Finkelstein, Israel Shamir etc., who dare to call a spade a spade,
> no matter how much mud will be thrown at them by right-wingers.
> 
> 
> > Many of my good friends and colleages are jewish (no one orthodox)
> > [...]  if I
> > see the picture again I'm afraid I would inmediatly think that the 
> man
> with
> > the black hat and coat is thinking in the economic potential and 
> the war
> > uses of the device.
> 
> Sounds like you single out the Orthodox in a negative way.  To be 
> fair
> it should be noted that the most Orthodox groups in Judaism are
> anti-Zionist.
> (see e.g. http://www.jewsnotzionists.org )
> 
> Chris
> 
> 
> _________________________________
> Q:  What's the difference between the statements "Jews are greedy" 
> and
>     "Palestinians are a cancer in the public welfare system" ?
> A:  One can make you a prison inmate in Germany.  The other can make 
> you
>     Minister of Tourism in Israel.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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