I'm not expert on this, Harry, but I think people still behave the same way as they did when you lived here.  There are still areas in large cities in which ethnic groups concentrate because they are more comfortable among their own.  However, their children will not necessarily stay in those areas. 
 
It's very difficult to generalize because various ethnic groups behave differently.  There are still parts of Ottawa that are considered Italian or Lebanese or Chinese, and have been identified with those ethnicities for three generations or so.  However, with each generation younger people from those areas have moved out and other people have moved in, leading to a much more mixed population.
 
Ed
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Subject: RE: [Futurework] 128. Anti-immigration feeling grows in Europe

Ed,
 
When I lived in Ontario, it was noticeable that new immigrants tended to move into their own "ghettos". Particularly so in the case of the Italians, who gathered together in Toronto.
 
There is nothing wrong with this, for it is natural for people in new and strange circumstances to cleave to their own, but I wonder what the situation is now?
 
Are the sons and daughters of the immigrants moving out into the broader reaches of Canada? We have a problem here with new immigrants (legal and illegal) from Mexico. I should say that they have a problem. The only way they have of getting out of the barrios is by learning English. The schools are letting them down.
 
Teachers who teach the ESL. classes (English as a Second Language) earn an extra $5,000 a year for doing so. Yet, the program appears to have been a complete failure.
 
I want the sons and daughters to get out of the barrios and become CEOs, perhaps of Enron and similar companies, but in any event, good English is the passport to success.
 
Fortunately, the kids learn English themselves. Unfortunately, not the kind of English that would become a passport.
 
Harry

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ed Weick
Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 5:50 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Keith Hudson
Subject: Re: [Futurework] 128. Anti-immigration feeling grows in Europe

A couple of points, Keith.  One is that the Swiss have never been noted for their treatment of foreigners.  I spent about ten days in Geneva some thirty years ago.  The people who were making the beds and cleaning the toilets in the hotel I was staying in were Italians.  I seem to recall that they had no rights of citizenship and no hope of getting them.
 
The other is that, as you know, Canada is rapidly becoming a multi-ethnic, multi-racial society.  Where its emerging character may be most visible is at local schools.  Our local high school, noted for its good academic performance, has just about every kind of kid imaginable in it.  While kids from Jewish families perform well, they do not necessarily perform better than other kids, including the kids of Somalian refugees, one of whom was President of the Students' Council a couple of years ago.  One of the brightest kids in school, of Anglo-Canadian parentage, was going around with one of the other brightest kids in school, whose parents came from somewhere in Africa.  They've gone off to university together.
 
I'd suggest that, by now, whatever theory of human evolution one adheres to, we've mixed and remixed in so many different ways that it would be difficult to argue that one group is intellectually or physically superior to another.  There may be special adaptations.  An anthropologist once told me that Australian Aborigine kids have an easier time finding their way around the outback than White kids, but these probably go with the territory.  Change the territory, and special adaptations would probably also change.  And we really don't know how much of this kind of thing is cultural versus innate.
 
Ed Weick

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Sent: Monday, October 20, 2003 3:45 AM
Subject: [Futurework] 128. Anti-immigration feeling grows in Europe

Yesterday's parliamentary election results in Switzerland will send a shock wave through left-wing and liberal politicians and the intelligentsia generally throughout Europe. The anti-immigration campaign of the Swiss People's Party (SVP) looks as though it's the first successful forerunner of what will repeatedly occur throughout Europe as its economy declines in the coming years. There have been strong intimations of this already in France (which almost succeeded in producing an anti-immigration president) and also in England (where the British National Party is beginning to get local government seats in the north of England), Belgium, Germany and other countries.

I think we had better get used to this phenomenon because anti-immigration feelings are pretty fundamental and are expressed by any and every group of people throughout the world and throughout history whenever their way of earning a living is likely to be affected. Groups, tribes and races will always welcome foreign traders and tourists and will even be liberal in the matter of allowing inter-marriage (originally necessary for genetic reasons), but the fairly large-scale immigration of foreignors who are likely to be competitors for their jobs is quite another matter. Those who are active in promoting immigration (at least in England) are typically middle-class people whose livings are most unlikely to be affected, even by large-scale immigration of (usually) lower-skilled people from abroad. The people who suffer are the lower-class, less-educated section of the population -- usually those who live in the north in the case of England.

For myself, I am neither in favour of, nor against, large-scale immigration. In principle, I am in favour of the free movement of labour, just as I am in the case of the free movment of goods and capital, but this is only practicable in a peaceful way when immigrants are bringing brand new skills into a country and are not going to be competitive with existing ones. Large-scale immigration into America a century ago, particularly of large numbers of gifted Ashkenazi Jews from central Europe, has been the making of modern America. I simply note that the whole of human evolution in small social groups has predisposed the species genetically to being very wary of immigration into their own territories. To be in favour of large-scale immigration is not necessarily to be a liberal member of the intelligentsia; it is to be someone who is uneducated in the anthropological past of the human species and who is often insufferably patronising about the fears of the less fortunate among their own indigenous population. This is a matter on which the evolutionary economist can make more relevant comments than orthodox economists.

Keith Hudson
 
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POLL TRIUMPH FOR SWISS RIGHT WING
 
Early results from Switzerland's parliamentary elections show that the right-wing Swiss People's Party (SVP) has the biggest share of the vote.

Final exit polls from Swiss television indicate the party won more than 27% - even more than had been predicted. The party, once the smallest of the four governing parties in the coalition, is now the largest. Exit polls also indicated an unexpected decline in support for centre-right parties.

The SVP, which opposes Swiss membership of the European Union, is likely to win an extra 11 seats in the 200-seat House of Representatives. The fact that the Swiss have expressed such trust in the SVP means they want a change in policy.  The BBC's Imogen Foulkes in Bern says the party's anti-foreigner campaign, in which asylum seekers were portrayed as criminals and drug dealers, seems to have found favour with more voters than it offended.

Now the party will put forward Christoph Blocher, its most controversial and outspoken figure, for a second seat in the seven-member cabinet. That would disrupt the coalition which has governed Switzerland for almost 50 years. The official results due on Monday are also expected to show strong levels of support for the Social Democrats (SDP) on the left.

Anti-foreign propaganda

"The SVP is winning voters in all cantons, about 1-8% more," election analyst Claude Longchamp told Swiss TV. Mr Blocher, a billionaire industrialist, said the result "looks superb for Switzerland. The fact that the Swiss have expressed such trust in the SVP means they want a change in policy."

Switzerland's once strong economy is heading for a slump, unemployment is rising, and social benefits are being cut back. The election campaign was dominated by the SVP's anti-foreigner propaganda, overshadowing concerns about the economy. The party has doubled its share of the popular vote in the last 10 years.

Its campaign, including posters portraying asylum seekers as criminals, was sharply criticised by anti-racism groups. Centre-right Liberal Party parliamentarian Barbara Polla said she had sensed that many elderly people felt more was being done to help immigrants than pensioners. "I think there is a very large amount of work that needs to be done to reassure people, and to show that the presence of foreigners... is a positive factor, especially for the economy," she said.

The United Nations refugee agency also said the party's propaganda contained some of the most anti-asylum advertisements ever seen in Europe.
Financial Times --18/19 October 2003 
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