Sorry Keith, I just read this. 
 
Where in the world have you been doing business?    The only purpose is to make money?    That is too funny for words and then "except for the corrupt French and Italians"   you had to be kidding.    Weren't you?   That is the root of the pathology of modern amoral business.  It reminds me of my old German oriented music professors talking about the shallow and corrupt French.    You should hear what they said about the erudite Hungarians and they were genocidal against Gypsies.  (in an earlier era they would have included the Jews although that was sub rosa when I was in school.)   They obviously never met Pierre Bernac.   He would have destroyed them as he did my pretensions when I made the mistake of quoting their teachings.   
 
Get out and about a bit.   Its not too late.   Take a solfegge course at the Sorbonne or study choral music in Milan.   Take a theatre course at your own Royal Academy where my old teacher Dame Eva taught until her death.    I haven't had the opportunity for travel but I have studied for many years with great English, French, German, Italian, Russian and Hungarian teachers.   I am well aware of the common cultural conventions and stories about each other and I love them all but they were not corrupt and their cultural intricacies are interesting and often admirable.    I would suggest for the English a read in Clifford Geertz's book "Local Knowledge" where he examines the Anglophilic pretension to "common sense" not as agreement but as "nature."    The common pedagogical error of mistaking habit for natural intuition which is implied as genetic.   It is only matched by the refusal of the scientists at the Center for Advanced Studies, where he is the head of the Anthropology Department, to submit to an anthropological examination of the myths of science.   Artists examine and work with sacred cows without killing them.   Tell the truth but do it gracefully and with insight rather than destruction.   When the West forgot that they began to lie about Art and themselves.
 
REH
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Sent: Monday, December 15, 2003 12:56 AM
Subject: Re: [Futurework] EU a civil-service conspiracy? (was Re: The dumb-bell shaped economy)

Christoph,

At 22:28 14/12/2003 +0100, you wrote:
Keith Hudson wrote:
> I regard the EU as a plot,
> mainly by senior civil servants but with fellow-travelling senior
> politicians in the main European countries, to form a larger and superior
> form of nation-state which will, of course, give them more career
> opportunities and more power. Being far more intelligent than politicians,
> the civil service have been able to manipulate them by giving them plenty
> of junkets and fulsome opportunities to claim money on expenses.

This ignores the roots and drivers of the EU project, which are corporate
rather than state:  The European Roundtable of Industrialists (www.ERT.be)
which has planned all major projects of the EU (e.g. Eurotunnel, euro
currency, east enlargement etc.) and realized them without even asking
the politicians or people of the EU member states.  The MEPs that Keith
complains about, are merely "democratic" window dressing as they have
no real decision power anyway, and the little decision-dressing they have,
is cared for by several corporate lobbyists per MEP hanging around in
Brussels.  Of course MEPs and civil servants enjoy their economic perks,
but let's not confuse piggy-backers with driving forces.

I don;t agree -- big business will go along with the EU with alacrity because they always make a bee-line for government in order to get privileges, as Harry often observes. But they're not the main drivers. Their main motivations are to make money, not to get involved in politics directly. (The only exceptions to this being some entreprneurs of the old school -- that is, the particularly corrupt ones, particularly Italians and French.)  In England, according to the Institute of Directors, big business is divided about 50:50, and according to the Chambers of Commerce, most of their members are against the EU (about 60:40), seeing no particular advantage in the EU and the Euro except a 0.25% reduction in exchange rate commissions.

The corporate agenda of the EU is to "open" and plunder the natural and
human resources of the new and future member states (incl. CH in the
long run).  As EU boss Romano Prodi put it:  "Going west was their [U$']
enlargement. They found the Rocky Mountains; we found Prague and Budapest."
Let's hope the Brits leave those nasty smallpox blankets at home this time
(in the figurative sense)...


> The beginning of the end of the nation-state came when
> the nuclear bomb was invented because this meant that, sooner or later, a
> rogue nation or even a terrorist group such as Al Qaeda, will be able to
> bring a nation-state to its knees by exploding the device at the location
> of its highly centralised government and civil service

The beginning of the end of the nation-state came when
the TNC was invented because this meant that, sooner or later, a
rogue TNC or even an economic terrorist group such as WTO, will be able to
bring a nation-state to its knees by blackmailing it with jobs and
economic sanctions.

You have a too conspiracist idea about the WTO. In the main it is well-meaning, though a lot of dirty politics go on within it.

Keith


Chris


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