Salvador,
I posted the Aztec poem because its imagery is that of control, death,
empire, and power.
BB
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From: "Salvador S�nchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Futurework] FT PR vs. Historical Facts
> Ray:
> Yours is only one perspective of mexican history, quite similar to the
> official history. Noy everybody among the most respected historians
> (scholars) agree with the bucolic, romantic, version of the aztec society.
> In the time the spaniards came to Mexico ("Cortes -with S- the brute", you
> wrote) they were cruel, bloodthirsty people who terrorized their
neighbours,
> a decadent society with few to offer, except war and domination. Very
> violent people, no doubt. Nowadays their descendants still are.
> Hernan Cortes is the most important person in Mexico's history, and of the
> few gratest men of all times. Because of my national and cultural roots,
and
> because of the respect I feel por this brave man, I rather to construct my
> mexican identity based on Cortes figure and not in the idealized and
irreal
> figure of "the aztecs". Salvador
>
> From: "Ray Evans Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 9:38 PM
>
>
> > Perhaps you know little about the Aztecs. They loved their children.
> Had
> > no crime rate and had the first public schools in the world. They were
> > fierce to their enemies and proud of their nation. Their cities were
> the
> > most beautiful in the world according to Cortez and his men and they
were
> > the world's greatest farmers. They were great singers and poets.
They
> > chose the direct method to human sacrifice rather than creating
situations
> > where people were worked to death or allowed to die to satisfy an
> invisible
> > hand. You didn't screw around with them and they had public works
> projects
> > for the poor and free food along the road planted every year for the
poor
> > and in case of drought. They also had the most efficient sewage system
> on
> > the planet when Europe was killing itself in filth and plague and the
> > world's largest city at the time. With every man woman and child
sick
> > from the Smallpox they still fought the Spanirds to a standstill and did
> not
> > give up the city until there was no more city. I don't find them
> > particularly more violent than senators who would vote to raise the
speed
> > limit in a highway system that would kill 10,000 more people a year just
> to
> > satisfy the Green God. In fact their sacrifices were organized. One a
> day.
> > That is 365. And no accident lottery to blame it on God. They took
> > responsibility. Of course it was brutal and had nothing to do with
> > justice but frighteningly little in this society has to do with justice
> > either, when it comes to who lives and who dies. Nothing is just
about
> > environmentally caused cancer or heart disease caused by pollution or
> brain
> > tumors caused by lead. The Gods of industry won't produce without
their
> > kill off of human souls. Today they even threaten the planet with their
> > environmental chaos. Europeans spoke in terms of the deaths of
thousands
> > when the Aztecs fought wars of roses for captives to sacrifice the one
or
> > two a day. Death is death and numbers are numbers. Everything else
is
> > just excuses. So if you don't like the Aztecs. Sorry, I though I was
> > making a compliment. Perhaps you don't like that they were religious
> > fundamentalists?
> >
> > REH
>
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