Salvador, I posted the Aztec poem because its imagery is that of control, death, empire, and power.
BB ----- Original Message ----- From: "Salvador Sánchez" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2003 9:16 AM Subject: Re: [Futurework] FT PR vs. Historical Facts > Ray: > Yours is only one perspective of mexican history, quite similar to the > official history. Noy everybody among the most respected historians > (scholars) agree with the bucolic, romantic, version of the aztec society. > In the time the spaniards came to Mexico ("Cortes -with S- the brute", you > wrote) they were cruel, bloodthirsty people who terrorized their neighbours, > a decadent society with few to offer, except war and domination. Very > violent people, no doubt. Nowadays their descendants still are. > Hernan Cortes is the most important person in Mexico's history, and of the > few gratest men of all times. Because of my national and cultural roots, and > because of the respect I feel por this brave man, I rather to construct my > mexican identity based on Cortes figure and not in the idealized and irreal > figure of "the aztecs". Salvador > > From: "Ray Evans Harrell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 2003 9:38 PM > > > > Perhaps you know little about the Aztecs. They loved their children. > Had > > no crime rate and had the first public schools in the world. They were > > fierce to their enemies and proud of their nation. Their cities were > the > > most beautiful in the world according to Cortez and his men and they were > > the world's greatest farmers. They were great singers and poets. They > > chose the direct method to human sacrifice rather than creating situations > > where people were worked to death or allowed to die to satisfy an > invisible > > hand. You didn't screw around with them and they had public works > projects > > for the poor and free food along the road planted every year for the poor > > and in case of drought. They also had the most efficient sewage system > on > > the planet when Europe was killing itself in filth and plague and the > > world's largest city at the time. With every man woman and child sick > > from the Smallpox they still fought the Spanirds to a standstill and did > not > > give up the city until there was no more city. I don't find them > > particularly more violent than senators who would vote to raise the speed > > limit in a highway system that would kill 10,000 more people a year just > to > > satisfy the Green God. In fact their sacrifices were organized. One a > day. > > That is 365. And no accident lottery to blame it on God. They took > > responsibility. Of course it was brutal and had nothing to do with > > justice but frighteningly little in this society has to do with justice > > either, when it comes to who lives and who dies. Nothing is just about > > environmentally caused cancer or heart disease caused by pollution or > brain > > tumors caused by lead. The Gods of industry won't produce without their > > kill off of human souls. Today they even threaten the planet with their > > environmental chaos. Europeans spoke in terms of the deaths of thousands > > when the Aztecs fought wars of roses for captives to sacrifice the one or > > two a day. Death is death and numbers are numbers. Everything else is > > just excuses. So if you don't like the Aztecs. Sorry, I though I was > > making a compliment. Perhaps you don't like that they were religious > > fundamentalists? > > > > REH > > _______________________________________________ > Futurework mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://scribe.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework _______________________________________________ Futurework mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://scribe.uwaterloo.ca/mailman/listinfo/futurework