On Tue, Mar 10, 2009 at 02:21:04AM +0000, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
> On 09 Mar 2009 23:16:21 +0000, Thomas Adam wrote:
> > 
> > 2009/3/9 Mikhael Goikhman <[email protected]>:
> > > On 09 Mar 2009 10:21:05 -0500, Jonathan Kotta wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I use Ubuntu, and use `make deb-inplace` to build fvwm .debs. ?Nothing
> > >> in my system needs libgtk1.x, and I can imagine many people could say
> > >> the same. ?Should fvwm get rid of this dependency?
> > >
> > > This question is actually two. Whether we should have FvwmGtk (I think,
> > > yes). And whether libgtk1 should be forced for deb generation (I think,
> > > no, it should ideally be synced with ./configure detection).
> > 
> > I say we drop it -- no one uses FvwmGTK anymore.  No one has bothered
> > or felt the urge to port it to use GTK2.
> 
> I don't know whether this is a good reason to remove this module.
> Noone felt urge to do many things in fvwm. This is the chicken and egg
> question. An idea to have a full GTK integration seems nice (menus,
> dialogs). Possibly even more appealing to me than an idea to have module
> managed window decorations. My position is although I don't use a lot of
> features in fvwm, I would not suggest to break or remove anything.
> At least without showing what is gained by this. And giving enough time
> in advance to notify all potential users.
> 
> BTW, in fvwm-themes, "Configuration / Theme Settings (gtk)" dialog uses
> it (if you configured the FvwmGtk support in fvwm).
> 
> > Note also FvwmGtkDebug -- last I checked that suffers from a similar
> > dependency.
> 
> I use it, and I think it is a must see for every new fvwm developer,
> to understand and possibly debug the module communication. It is
> probably a good idea to convert it from gtk1 to gtk2, but I didn't see
> a good reason, since it just works and should not be funcy. I think
> there is a debian package libgtk-perl, and on the latest Fedora
> installing perl-GTK-0.7009-5mdv2008.1 rpm from Mandriva (use --nodeps)
> works fine.

http://packages.debian.org/search?keywords=libgtk-perl
etch was the lsat Debian release to have libgtk-perl, the current
Debian release lenny that came out this year no longer has the
package, lenny does have libgtk2-perl instead.

> In any case, FvwmGtkDebug is pretty different from FvwmGtk. First,
> there is no any dependency on build time; like anything perl related a
> missing package may be installed at any time later. And this module is
> intended for developers, not regular users.
> 
> Regards,
> Mikhael.

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