On Sat, Jun 16, 2012 at 12:30 (+0100), Thomas Adam wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 01:34:46PM -0300, Jim Diamond wrote:
>> On Thu, 31 May 2012 12:26:34 -0700 Thomas Adam wrote
>>> On 31 May 2012 18:11, <z...@acadiau.ca> wrote:
>>>> P.S. Yes, I know I can work around this bug with a Style * IconTitle %i
>>>> line in my config.
>>> And this is *precisely* why this can never be the default, due to how
>>> icon title assignment works.
>> Sorry, I don't follow what you are saying. Previously (2.6.1 and back
>> for the last 15 or 20 years, as far as I recall) the icon title was
> Uh-huh.
Was that supposed to be useful?
>> the icon title, and now the icon title is (by default) set when the
>> window title is set. You say "it can't be done", but changing the
> No, never did I say "it can't be done",
Is playing with words here helpful? By "done" I meant "be the
default", and you did say (see above) that "this can never be the
default".
What I would like to understand is *why* it can't be the default,
given that it was for a long time.
> moreover, I said that it won't change to how it is implemented _now_
What does that mean? Nothing needs to change to become what it
currently is.
> -- and that -- despite the change, you'll have to add in an explicit
> IconTitleFormat of "%i" to get the old behaviour to work.
> Why isn't this the default? Because not every program has an explicit icon
> title -- and since the XEvent queue can't guarantee when FVWM proceeses a
> WM_NAME event from an icon title event (few programs actually set explicit
> icon titles; xterm is one which does though), setting the icon title to its
> window name in the general case covers that, and those people who know a
> program has the ability to change its icon title can just set "%i" for their
> IconTitleFormat string.
Notwithstanding this explanation, I can't say I ever noticed a problem
with older versions of fvwm (vis-a-vis icon titles). I'm curious
about what problems people were having that require a non-backward-compatible
change to fvwm. If people were ending up with icons with no titles,
would it not have been possible to make the default behaviour to use
the icon title when there was one, and if not use the window title?
Jim
