On Mon, 24 Sep 2001, Sidik Isani wrote:

[SNIP]
>   We run jdk-1.3.1.  Windows pop up in the wrong places under FVWM1,
>   but the sizes are correct.  Under FVWM2, windows themselves, or
>   sometimes the widgets within the windows, pop up as 0x0!  Then when
>   you try to resize the window, they flip back to the right size.
>   Needless to say, this is pretty unusable for most people.  I'm
>   guessing Java is doing something non-standard, because FVWM2 has
>   been working quite flawlessly with every other application.
>   (Although, I did have a "search string not found" popup from
>   netscape which also came up 0x0 size just once ... strange.)
> 
>   I've experimented with all of the *Transient options, BackingStore
>   (which, by the way, causes the window to be blank most of the
>   time!?), No/UsePPosition,No/UseTransientPPosition,No/UseUSPosition,
>   No/UseTransientUSPosition, SkipMapping, etc.  Nothing helps.  Has
>   anyone seen this before?  Some kind of hack Style which we could
>   apply to "AWT*" in our .fvwm2rc's as a work-around could be useful.
>   Reportedly, CDE, KDE, and Enlightenment now work (but Sun supposedly
>   put a special hack into Java just for Enlightenment).  FVWM1 also
>   kind of worked.  Do they do anything fundamentally differently
>   from FVWM2?

        I've experienced different (but probably closely related) problem
with Java.  That was jdk-1.1.5 (yes, I know it is very old) and Miralilis'
ICQJava (yes, I know that it is totally a bugware).

        When using fvwm-2.4, all ICQ popup windows (e.g. user info,
messages etc.) flash for a moment and disappear.  If the same is done
under TWM (which uses ManualPlacement), each window appears *twice* --
first in some "random" place (under the mouse?), and than in exactly the
same place.

        Fvwm-2.2.4 didn't have this problem, so this supposedly can
(should?) be fixed, but I don't have a precise idea about why it works as
it works.  Can somebody please make comments on it (in fact, general notes
regarding Java + WM, or some pointers to such info) will be very
interesting.

        _________________________________________
          Dmitry Yu. Bolkhovityanov
          [EMAIL PROTECTED]
          The Budker Institute of Nuclear Physics



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