On 17 Oct 2002 12:47:14 -0700, Tim Freedom wrote:
> 
> Another thing to note, why is it that transients are always above
> other windows beyond their initial bring-up state.  In other words,
> I have this "Open Page" Window which when comes up flickers :-) and
> then gets focus and I can type into it no matter where my cursor
> was -- which is cool.  But assume I want to paste-in something that
> was on its parent window, if I move the mouse (and I use MouseFocus)
> to purposely lose the focus on the transient, the transient resists
> being lowered.  If I force a "lower yourself" command on it, the
> parent gets lowered as well - is this intended behavior ?  Does anyone
> else see it a bit too forceful and harsh ? I would have thought that
> the 'GrabFocusTransient' just grabs the focus and raises itself
> upon bring-up.  Ideally, the transient should be at least "forcible"
> to be lowered if one opted to do it via a 'lower' command, no ?

If you search for "Transient" in the man page you may find some insights.
The default is:

  Style * RaiseTransient, LowerTransient, StackTransientParent

I use:

  Style * DontRaiseTransient, DontLowerTransient, DontStackTransientParent

> Last suggestion :-)  it would really be cool to have an automatic
> mechanism to get all the necessary data that you as developers need
> to see to report a bug (or an oddity).  Something akin to emacs'
> "report-emacs-bug" or emacs VM's "vm-submit-bug-report" which pretty
> much dumps the configuration options, and various internal important
> state values/settings.  A builtin command (or an external script via
> perl or something) could be invoked via a menu entry which would result
> in a window (similar to FvwmIdent's output) which one can cut-n-paste.
> Map that "fvwm-report-bug" in the source (like Alt-Tab is done today)
> to say Alt-F12 and its available to all fvwm users.

We already have fvwm-bug (should be in your $PATH).

Copying from FvwmIdent would be nice, but it does not contain much more
information than xwininfo -all (that may be copied).

FvwmCommand(1) provide more like an information you speak about, but it is
inconvenient to use and I will remove this functionality sometimes anyway
as Dominik requested. I will think about something more convenient for
dumping style and other information about a window, but this will be of
limited use and really not something to be added to fvwm-bug by default.

Regards,
Mikhael.
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