On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 10:45:24PM +0000, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
> On 19 Nov 2002 12:05:40 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > 
> > On Tue, Nov 19, 2002 at 10:44:38AM +0100, Dominik Vogt wrote:
> > > On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 12:34:03PM -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > > On Mon, Nov 18, 2002 at 04:41:15AM -0600, FVWM CVS wrote:
> > > > > - Changed some defaults (not META_L binding by default; no default 
> > > > > font; use
> > > > > mouse selection).
> > > > 
> > > > Does everyone actually want the proxies to be auto-selected by moving 
> > > > the mouse
> > > > over them and not even clicking them?  I found it really annoying, but 
> > > > I'd be
> > > > willing to put it up for a vote.
> > > 
> > > I just thought it was a better default.  Of course you can still
> > > disable it in your personal config.
> > 
> > I wanted the defaults to be optimum setup.  That's why I tried to put
> > press/release Alt into the defaults, sort of like how WinList Alt-Tab
> > is in ConfigFvwmDefaults.  It shouldn't hurt when you don't use
> 
> But it does hurt everyone. Try a mere:
> 
>   Key -Alt_L A A Nop
> 
> and see how Alt stops to work in xterm.
> Actually I managed to make no keyboard work at all after this command and
> some manipulations, only Restart using a mouse helped.

Ah, ok.  I guess I don't use Alt constructs except for the WM.
Let's see ... ok, I guess I've locked out the Alt key.

For the other issue, if there is a Config default, which it's sounding like
there shouldn't, I feel the default EnterSelect should be false.

> > FvwmProxy and it does something other than absolutely nothing when
> > FvwmProxy is run without any user config.
> > 
> > When I press Alt, my mouse is all over the place: move window, resize 
> > window, etc.
> > I don't want whatever window proxy I happened to swing over last to pop 
> > forward
> > after I finish resizing some other window.  If the whole point of swinging 
> > my mouse
> > over the proxy was to raise the window, I can press left mouse when I get 
> > there.
> > 
> > Now, maybe we should have config functions for selection by various mouse 
> > buttons like
> > we have for a Hide after a Next/Prev.  Right now it's hard coded to 
> > raise/lower.
> > I guess that would be like:
> > *FvwmProxy: Action  Click1  Raise
> > *FvwmProxy: Action  Click3  Lower
> 
> I don't worry about the exact FvwmProxy defaults as long as they are
> private to a module.

Part of the question was, for people interested in what the defaults are,
what should they be?  But everyone should be interested in making/following
precedence on how things are configured, ie. is the Action syntax a good
or bad thing?  It looks good to me.

I've just implemented the FvwmProxy Action command for Click(1|2|3),
pending checkin.

I vote that we don't run ConfigFvwmProxyDefaults by default and
let any defaulting live in the .c file itself.  I'm not quite sure
how to turn it off.

So then, what is ConfigFvwmProxyDefaults for, a sample that's redundant with
the man page?  Should I get rid of the things that have .c defaults?

I'm not really sure what FvwmProxy_Circulate does.  I don't think I'm using it.
All the other config Funcs seem to support it except SelectFunc, which I guess
I am using.

For consistancy, couldn't we just use the Action syntax, something like:

AddToFunc MySelectFunc
+ I WindowId $w Iconify off
+ I WindowId $w FlipFocus
+ I WindowId $w Raise
+ I WindowId $w WarpToWindow 50 50

*FvwmProxy: Action  Select  MySelectFunc

I'm not sure about "Iconify off", since FvwmProxy current ignores all
iconified windows anyhow.

Also, I figured out the background problem.  The background was only properly
reconfigured with the use of MarkProxy().  Since I wasn't using the Mark
script functions, I guess I never marked.  So, I switched Next/Prev to
reuse the same functionality as the Mark.

One little question about Next/Prev, spcecifically to where it continues
relative to where it left off on a previous Show.  I had it so that it
starts back on the last selected proxy and then moves on from there.
But looking at an MS box, I see the first Alt-Tab moves on to the next window
immediately.  Is this the preferred functionality (convention vs. my intuition)?


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