On 28 Dec 2002 07:28:23 +0100, Olivier Chapuis wrote:
>
> On Sat, Dec 28, 2002 at 02:25:07AM +0000, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
> > On 27 Dec 2002 18:00:20 -0600, FVWM CVS wrote:
> > >
> > > Log message:
> > > * Completed UseTitleDecorRotation new Style
> > > * UseTitleDecorRotation is a default do not know if this is a good idea
> >
> > I like the result!
> > Should buttons (the content) be rotated too in the long run?
>
> No I think that buttons must not be rotated. But note that the
> UseTitleStyle part of the Buttons decor is rotated. A ButtonStyle
> Pixmap is a brain "mark" image, if you rotate it you will trouble users
> (what can even happen, if you rotate buttons, is that a given button x
> in a rotated title can look as button y in a non rotated title, with x
> != y). Ok, some fvwm-themes themes will look better if we rotate
> buttons, but it is fvwm-themes which should be fixed not fvwm:
> blackbox, mech, metal (maybe), nanoGUI should be converted to
> MultiPixmap. MultiPixmap themes should be fixed by decomposing the
> background of the buttons and the real buttons. The bg of the buttons
> should be set via UseTitleStyle with the {Left,Right,}Buttons options.
My brain says that if everything is rotated, button foreground should be
rotated too. I can see your points if a brain of anyone suggests that
button images should be fixed forever. I don't have a strong opinion here.
One reason for button rotation is this, we may fix fvwm-themes, but not
everyone knows how or wants to do it, or has transparent images.
For example, most of buttons on the Suzanne's page use non-transparent
images, so they look incorrectly for side titles without rotation.
> > Nice that you continue to support a 180 rotation.
>
> Can you recall my why this is useful ? :o)
1) For symmetry and consistency with vertical sides.
2) For correctness of some highly assimetrical titlebars that require that
title is always directed to the center, i.e. rotated around the center.
Think about a future !TitleBorder - one of 4 window borders is disabled
3) For fun. Are other WMs have this?
4) You never know when the skills to read a 180 rotated text will be
useful. Think, either your keyboard or display or you is rotated. :)
Clowns and cosmonauts may appreciate this. :)
Regards,
Mikhael.
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