On 10 Jul 2003 01:48:28 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Jul 09, 2003 at 07:54:06PM +0300, Mikhael Goikhman wrote:
> > On 09 Jul 2003 09:19:48 +0200, Dominik Vogt wrote:
> > > The default must always allow the user to bring the desktop into a
> > > usable state.  Applications can not be trusted to behave.
> > 
> > I agree.
> > 
> > Thinking about the emergency key. We already have Alt-Tab that may be
> > used to switch to any (non WindowListSkip) window. WindowList calls
> > WindowListFunc that currently contains this line among others:
> > 
> >   + I Iconify off
> > 
> > In case we will have FullScreen command, I think, we should also add:
> > 
> >   + I FullScreen off
> > 
> > to the default WindowListFunc. This will help users to bring their
> > windows to a normal state. Just an idea, nothing else.
> 
> This unfortunately does not work if the full screen window is the
> only window.

If WindowListFunc includes "FullScreen off" it will work even if there is
only one window. Or do you mean extreme cases unrelated to full screen?

> We could extend the Ctrl-Alt-Escape sequence we already use for
> similar purposes.  In addition to what it already does, it would
> call a "Quarantaine" function that quanrantaines the window under
> the pointer.  Ideally the function would
> 
>  * Remove the window from the desktop, perhaps by iconifying it.
>    The window must be unmapped to ensure it can not cause further
>    damage on the desktop.
> 
>  * Show a reprensentation of all windows in quarantaine and allow
>    the user to end the quarantaine by clicking on the placeholder.

I would think more before implementing something like this. A lot of
users already have bindings that make such emergency key redundant.
I may count several such bindings in fvwm-themes, for example Alt-Mouse1
inside any window opens the root menu, Alt-Mouse2 raiselowers/moves the
window, Alt-Mouse3 opens the window menu and Alt-F9 iconifies the window.

Another Alt-Tab based solution may be as follows. When we will support
different mouse buttons in a menu, i.e. supporting different menu item
actions depending on the mouse button, we could bind a window operation
menu to the right mouse click in the WindowList menu. Such window
operation menu could contain Iconify, Move and other window operations.

Regards,
Mikhael.
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