On Wed, Jan 01, 2003 at 11:47:54PM -0500, Roland Roberts wrote: > I'm trying to get GNOME to play nice with FVWM; it's mostly working, > but.... > > Near as I can tell, Nautilus either controls the whole desktop or none > at all. That is, it will create desktop icons for me, but only if I > also let it control the background (image, color, whatever) as well. > If I don't want it to control the background, then it won't do the > desktop icons either. > > Has anyone else played with this combination of GNOME/Nautilus 2 and > FVWM? Do I have it right or is it possible to get Nautilus to leave > my background alone while still creating desktop icons? >
No, I do not think so. It is not FVWM fault. IMO, GNOME 2 and KDE >=2 (and in fact the EWMH spec.) take an erroneous decision about what should be a window of desktop type: "This can include a single window containing desktop icons with the same dimensions as the screen, allowing the desktop environment to have full control of the desktop, without the need for proxying root window clicks." ... "This spec suggests implementing the file manager desktop by mapping a desktop-sized window (no shape) to all desktops, with _NET_WM_WINDOW_TYPE_DESKTOP. This makes the desktop focusable and greatly simplifies implementation of the file manager. It is also faster than managing lots of small shaped windows. The file manager draws the background on this window. There should be a root property with a window handle for use in applications that want to draw the background (xearth)." So what GNOME/Nautilus 2 do when you ask for icons desktop is to map this desktop-sized window over the root window. IMO this is a dramatic invention. GNOME 1/gmc solution was really better. Note that you have the "D" context if you want bindings to some FVWM actions over this desktop window. With Mouse 1 D M Menu MyFvwmMenuOverTheDesktop Alt-Mouse 1 will give the MyFvwmMenuOverTheDesktop menu. Of course, the problem here is that the desktop window has/needs some mouse bindings so you should use appropriate modifiers. If not you override these bindings with the FVWM one's. The last time I tried Nautilus the Alt modifier was Ok (i.e., I do not think that Nautilus use Alt-Mouse1). So, you should complaint at [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... I do it for you: I cc this message to this list. Regards, Olivier -- Visit the official FVWM web page at <URL: http://www.fvwm.org/>. To unsubscribe from the list, send "unsubscribe fvwm" in the body of a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To report problems, send mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
