> > Any suggestions as to what this phenomenon is, or how I can
> > 'correct' it so that the applications start with the title bar
> > visible?

> Which fvwm version?

(Darn.  I forgot to specify all of this on the original post)

  FVWM version 2.4.15
and
  fvwm-2.4.15-1
  fvwm-themes-0.6.2-1

> Which applications and their window size hints (run "xwininfo -size")?

xwininfo: Window id: 0x1c00029 "Pollo - /home/wendell/tmp/local.xml"
  Normal window size hints:
      Program supplied location: 0, 0
      Program supplied size: 788 by 570
      Program supplied window gravity: NorthWestGravity
  No zoom window size hints defined

It seems to be just java applications, and the "Program supplied
location: 0, 0" certainly looks bad.  Can I override this?

> Which fvwm configuration (better run fvwm with no configuration)?

Is this it?
  exec fvwm-themes-start
or is the configuration something else?

Wendell

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