This clears things up nicely thank you.

At 08:02 AM 10/15/01 -0700, you wrote:

>The specific answer:
>
>In a fetch, your module requests the latest installed (or attempted
>install) from the management server, which provides the last compiled
>policy from the $FWDIR/state directory on the management server.  No
>compilation is performed in a fetch - the management server simply gives
>it the last compiled policy for that module.
>
>In a "push," the policy is compiled and pushed to the module.  This policy
>is also moved to the state directory, such that it will be the policy
>provided to the module at the next "pull" (fetch).
>
>If you save a policy but do not push it, the compiled policy in the state
>directory is unchanged, such that you will still "pull" (fetch) the older
>policy from the management server.
>
>HTH - please post again if this isn't clear!
>
>Dan Hitchcock
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: Juan Concepcion
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>Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2001 6:54 PM
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>Subject: Re: [FW-1] Difference between fetch and push
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>All depends in a fetch, if you haven't saved your changes, the firewall will
>not pick-up the changes you've made to the policy and will only enforce what
>was there before.  In a push the rules and changes are automatically saved
>before any attempt is made to push out to the firewalls.  I find it strange
>that one firewall picked up your change and the other didn't but that's
>basically the difference between a push/fetch.
>
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>Behalf Of mikecc
>Sent: Friday, October 12, 2001 4:48 PM
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>Subject: [FW-1] Difference between fetch and push
>
>Hello,
>
>I noticed something today that I never noticed before.  I had to
>reboot a firewall and when the firewall came back up I was on the
>console and did a "fw fetch" to get the latest policy from the Management
>server, which happens to be a Provider-1 CMA.
>
>All appeared ok, I even did a fw stat after the fact to see that
>it got the proper policy.
>
>However, one of the rules was not working the way we expected.  I
>had made a change maybe an hour before to this particular rule, I
>included the VRRP pair (of which the firewall I rebooted was a member
>of) in the Install On colomn.  Prior to this change the rule did
>not do what we wanted, it was just something I had to tweak.
>
>So while running on the secondary after I fixed the rule, everything
>worked fine.  But it appeared that when I did a fetch from the newly
>restored master firewall it did not get that Install On change.
>
>When I returned to my desk and pushed the policy out to the newly
>restored Firewall the rule worked perfectly.
>
>Is there a difference between what happens in a fetch and what happens
>when a policy is pushed?
>
>Mike
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