Hi Mark,

I'm afraid I'm going to adopt the first solution... We are a 20 person company and a
simple and cheap solution (altough less transparent, I agree) will be at our
reach...
And the flaws of the first solution can be avoided in a small company...

Thanks,
Karim AMRANI
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> Remove the modem, insert a modem pool device that provides uses one of the
> standard Authentication and Authorization Protocols (RADIUS,TACACS,
> TACACS+), then you will have some logging and some granular control of
> what the user can do using a modem.
>
> The second action to take is go to you telecomm guy and restrict the
> lines, so that they can only dial out and a would be intruder will not be
> able to dial them back or dial into that modem, just in case some user
> flips the modem into auto answer mode.
>
> The reason the below logic does not work is that if a user is used to
> doing things one way for a very long time, all changes to any organization
> security architecture should be transparent to the user.  In some cases,
> this cannot be done, but in most cases, a user doesn't even know they are
> communicating to the Internet via a firewall, or that his/her's email is
> being scrubbed by some sort of virus/content scanner.
>
> The more noticeable the security architecture the greater the possibility
> a user may attempt to avoid any of the security mechanisms that they know
> about.
>
> /mark
>
> Tom Rowan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 06/08/00 07:22 AM
>
>
>         To:     "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, fw mailing list
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>         cc:
>         Subject:        RE: [FW1] modem internet access on the internal LAN
>
> Hi,
>
> With the greatest of respect, the wrong thing that you're doing is
> bypassing
> your firewall!!! Why spend all that money on huge, expensive titanium
> padlocks if you're going to leave them undone?!
>
> 1) Remove the modems.
> 2) Buy a standalone PC. Put a modem in it but NO network card.
> 3) Stick a skull and cross bones on it and never trust it again.
>
> Well okay, perhaps number 3 is a bit extreme, but you get my point? ;-)
>
> Tom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Karim Amrani [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2000 2:25 PM
> To: fw mailing list
> Subject: [FW1] modem internet access on the internal LAN
>
> Hi everybody,
>
> Some users of the internal LAN of our firewall still use modems to
> connect to internet (used to check the visibility of our web sites from
> outside the firewall, mainly).
>
> On their PC, they have an Ethernet card and a ISDN card.
> As I saw some of IP addresses they got from the modem ISP  in the IP
> database of the FW, it means that their PC is leaking its ISDN's IP on
> the ethernet LAN...
>
> Am I wrong somewhere ?
> May this be corrected by some configuration on the PC ?
>
> TIA,
> Karim AMRANI
>
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