Jeff,

I think when he said "hardware solution", he didn't mean an appliance
like Nokia which as you stated is really a suouped-up PC with
speciallized software.  What he meant was a solution utilizing one of
the many completely hardware based solutions available on the market,
like the:

Altiga
Alteon - Hardware based solutions for high availability 
Arrowpoint (Cisco) - High-end content aware switching
Extreme Networks - Another hardware (switch) based HA solution
F5 - Home of the famous BigIP load balancer
Foundry Networks - Superior high availability, load balancing,
clustering switches.  Great for implementing web server load LB,
firewall LB, geogrpahic LB, and transparent cache switching. 
Radware - Another high availability hardware vendor 

Obviously some of these have software companents, but most of them are
referred to as "load balancers" or "layer 7 switches", etc.

To add to the discussion, many people on the list have helped create an
HA site at http://www.hanetworks.com which has information on a lot of
these solutions, and is open for anybody to submit content if they have
ideas or designs to share about high availability.  Personally, I run
both a OSPF/Sun HA solution, and a Foundry Hardware Load Balancing
solution, and am happy with both of them.  And I know several people
using Radware, Alteon, etc. to balance multiple firewalls..

Hope this helps!

Jason


"Churcher, Simon" wrote:
> 
> There is no such thing as a hardware solution - even a PIX is just a PC with
> a flash memory card. It will always be down to the software - Specifically,
> if I could rephrase your request, perhaps it would be worth asking for an
> appliance, specifically built for the task.
> The closest/best thing for this is a Nokia solution. There are smaller
> appliances by RAMP (now nokia), intrusion.com etc. but these are only small
> office solutions.
> 
> hope this is of help.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff_Newton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 08 March 2001 18:24
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [FW1] Hardware HA solution advice needed
> 
> I understand Stonebeat and Rainwall have software solutions but I have
> always been more comfortable with hardware solutions (layer 7 switches)
> for server load balancing.  Can anyone offer some advice for a hardware
> HA solution for FW1?  How about a solution that includes support for
> SecuRemote?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> --
> Jeff Newton
> 
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