Well apparently this thread has gone way beyond what was its apparent intent. There is no right or wrong, Windows.....Unix.....Ford......Chevy........its a simple matter of preference. 10 years I have been doing this and have yet to prove in any setting that either platform is more or less secure then the other when installed, configured and administered properly. As far as there being incompetent people in the industry, well I don't know about anyone else but when I started in the business I would have been considered one of those too. IT security, and I use the term loosely is not something you can ever possibly hope to learn in a class or from books. Its a specialty that you either grow with or grow away from. So next time you or I think about those so called "Incompetent's" remember when you were on the other end of the learning curve. And after all, those you are screaming about today must be doing something right. They still have jobs, I don't and you may be next. Welcome to Layoff City!
Regards David A Phillips CISSP, MCSE Ft Worth, TX 76113 1.817.429.2085 ===================================================================== This message may contain confidential and/or proprietary information, and is intended only for the person/entity to whom it was originally addressed. The content of this message may contain private views and opinions which do not constitute a formal disclosure or commitment unless specifically stated. Should you receive this message by mistake please inform the sender immediately. ===================================================================== -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of enash Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 11:02 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [FW1] New worm on the road? Wow!! calm down boy! think you had a bit to much coffee. Well from the way you make it sound you are one in depth guy huh. well congrats on the idea of the resource that was so hard for the rest of us to think of. Ill stay with my Unix machines and the open source community. =) -----Original Message----- From: Chontzopoulos, Dimitris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2001 11:39 AM To: 'enash' Subject: RE: [FW1] New worm on the road? You don't have to install Unix in order to be virus-free... Just add a f****** resource and that will do it. Is it so hard to think of it??? I don't think so... It is just that the world is full of incompetent guys trying to install something without first knowing it in depth. That goes for FW-1 too. There are many-many-many-many-many incompetent guys trying to install it just by visiting Phoneboy.com first... IT A DAMN SHAME!!! Kind Regards, Dimitris Chontzopoulos IS Administrator Megatrust Securities S.A. 4, Kapsali Str. Athens, Greece Telephone : +3 01 7262403 Fax : +3 01 7262095 e-mail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] IT Help Desk Support : +3 01 7262400 DISCLAIMER ----------------------------------------------------------------- - This message is intended only for the use of the person(s) - - ("Intended Recipient") to whom it is addressed. It may - - contain information, which is privileged and confidential. - - Accordingly any dissemination, distribution,copying or - - other use of this message or any of its content by any person - - other than the Intended Recipient may constitute a breach of - - civil or criminal law and is strictly prohibited. If you are - - not the Intended Recipient, please contact the sender as soon - - as possible. - ----------------------------------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: enash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 5:57 AM To: Patrick Coomans; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [FW1] New worm on the road? Well just to add my 2 cents. I feel that if an administrator chooses to run a Microsoft web server. Than he should make it part of his daily regiment that when he has his morning cup of coffee he sits down and reads the latest bug reports available on the web, including checking the manufactures web sites for current patch releases. There for if his server is ever infected again with anything like Nimba or code red style of worms then he can be held responsible. The only thing I hate is the fact that every other second my web server is being hit with another "compromised IIS box's" . Only if every admin in the world understood Unix. If I were an NT admin I would go to the book store and pick up a book on Unix then convince the "brass" to switch. This is just my 2 cents some of you may not agree with me. For those of you that don't, you just give others machines to compromise when they have 5 minutes to spare before heading out to dinner with their families. Happy Virus Scans. =) Shane Hambleton Network Security Engineer CCSA-CCSE-CCSI -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Patrick Coomans Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 7:05 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [FW1] New worm on the road? Just an idea, but why not create a public blacklist with "persistent" unpatched web servers who re-propagate the Code Red and Nimda-style of worms over and over again - style orbs.org ?? Then all ISP's could use this blacklist to block all outgoing http from those servers. Maybe this already exists and I am not aware of it. Patrick Happy Apache-user ================================================================================ To unsubscribe from this mailing list, please see the instructions at http://www.checkpoint.com/services/mailing.html ================================================================================
