Over the last few months, many ORM discussions on this list show a common trend:
http://www.nabble.com/-need-advices--An-idea-to-build-a-KISS-ORM-system-upon-Zend_Db_Table-tf1926214.html#a5274924

The majority appear to be in favor of forcing the domain model (the M in MVC) to resemble the database schema because many believe this leads to a simpler and easier to use system. I know I'm over-simplifying, but it makes this email shorter ;)

I also know almost everyone wants to help design an ORM for ZF, but I suggest starting with this:
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2006/3/11/1001/81803
It is long, but humorous and informative. Remember, the ZF should be light, nimble, and easy to use.

First we need to finish our MVC components (please contribute feedback to proposals), and resolve some long-standing issues with Zend_Db* components, including providing a mysqli driver adapter, solving various table/column quoting issues, and address table/column naming conversions between code, class names, and the database. If you would like to join the ORM project team, please join the DB project team first, by picking one of these smaller tasks to work on:
http://framework.zend.com/issues/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=true&pid=10000&resolution=-1&component=10012

Cheers,
Gavin

Peter Hodge wrote:
--- Alexandre Riveira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

E how much the tool of orm, so far we do not have nothing seemed with ActiveRecord or similar

Does anyone know of a language which has an effective ORM implementation?  So
far as I have read, most people consider an ORM to be 'just too difficult' to
make and use.

regards,
Peter

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