> I am curious what others do with the missing Model Controller?? ;)

Controller:  "dumping ground for miscellaneous stuff"
http://lua-users.org/lists/lua-l/2006-08/msg00513.html

Controllers written by apps developers tend to be idiosyncratic (it's uh,
heh, all in one JSP file,  or,  it's here in these 57 XML files, or something
like that),  anybody off the street would probably just rewrite it or if they
had any sense generate it,  rather than try to understand it...so
controller-writing is essentially a waste of time for application developers.
Something standard ought to be in ZF that can't easily be rewritten and that
actually performs some service like,  generates all your dropdowns or
something,  like Achievo TK.

Trying to get ahead of the curve with Achievo TK now...nobody would have a
chance of rewriting that,  and it actually scales up to the 30 page business
apps with the 27 wired dropdowns and other widgets.  I don't know if you can
say the same about RoR.  Table-driven,  yes. They know SQL.  ATK is something
on the order of Oracle Forms,  or Sledgehammer,  er what was that
called?...oh yeah, IronSpeed.

-R

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