On 28/09/2006, at 11:52 AM, Christopher Thompson wrote:

I agree that the ZF would benefit by having the container type objects share a common interface. Whether any of these classes inherit a basic array/property class is a separate question that should be made on a case by case basis. But having a common interface standard would easy learning the ZF by making container interfaces predictable.

Speaking only for myself, I'd be happy to build on a base abstract class, but I agree that the 'Zend_Container' interface should be formalised as well.

Regarding the FilterChain, I originally proposed the FilterChain and Validator because I believe they are a better foundation on which to build stuff than the monolithic and procedural Filter and Filter_Input classes are. Because each Filter and Rule is its own class it is both infinitely extensible, yet you only include what you use. I actually originally created and implementation of the Filter and Input_Filter classes that was built upon Filter and Rule classes. It was very easy and would simplify testing and perhaps performance.

Do you have a prototype for the FilterChain? I see the skeleton on the proposal but was wondering how far progressed a proof-of-concept class was. It's really for Ralf and I to evaluate to see how much work would need to be done to plug it into our Form proposal.

As a sidenote, the FilterChain class could also be easily adapted to optionally be used to implement Intercepting Filter containing things like Access Control, Router and Front Controller objects. It is very multi-purpose. The FilterChain is really just a chain that you pass a Request object through and each Filter operates on the Request. Likewise the Validator is a chain of Rules that check the Request. These classes make it pretty easy to create Form and Application Controllers.

Indeed, Darby had posted a quick heads-up on the Zend_Acl issues page for an extension I'm investigating. Currently Zend_Acl performs a very straightforward true/false test but another community member had floated the idea for a filtered approach for individual (or even all) ACOs for operations like IP filtering, time-of-day, etc. Using a validator chain would be ideal, but again I was wondering if you had anything concrete or whether your proposal would be better handled as an interface so that each individual component could take care of the nuts and bolts.

The proposal I did a while back and has never been updated and needs a little work. I noticed that is has been demoted back to proposed from under review.

Look forward to seeing your improvements when you get the time - thanks for the quick response

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