Hi Andries,

I didn't think the presentation by Mr. Aulke was lacking, perhaps just not for the correct audience. There was a brief reference to a document at Oracle (I assume it is: http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/php/pdf/developing-php-zend-framework-oracle-core.pdf) written by mr. Aulke and that is extremely explanatory and well written. I felt the presentation more along these lines would have hit the target better.

Some (in my opinion) questions/comments made by some parts of the audience, such as:

- No, i tried Zend_Search, it just DOESNT work
- Zend_Soap_Server doesn't even exist
- etc ...

where very unplaced, and didn't make things easier for Mr. Gaylor Aulke. Above that, introducing a new framework, with tons of features, and going into use-case details + marketing in a 45 minute session is tough.

The comments made by the audience where also unfair in my eyes but they do convey a point that should not be ignored or dismissed. People are using the framework and it's coming up short of their expectations. Personally, I think this doesn't have so much to do with the framework or the code, but more with the lack of proper introduction and overall documentation. And that is something I wanted to bring a little attention to.

Kind regards,


Ramon de la Fuente

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