Mike Fern wrote:

Hi Bill,
Isn't it possible to put the smtp server's ip address into the
RBL/DNSBL and automatically reject all incoming mails?

In the meantime, maybe it's time for the bayesian filter to wake up
from perennial sleep and take action.

Cheers,
Mike

Its more deeper and sinister than that or else spam would have been fixed up way back in the early 90's. Ive contacted ICANN on the matters before, they don't care as long as they get their 50 cents per domain and spam filter companies get their licensing profits, just like anti-virus apps.

Ive tried again and again to tackle these things at the core, but my suggestions are usually ignored. In my investigations, these people are able to bulk register their domains and dns domains under false yahoo email addresses, this means their details are able to be falsified when registering. They will usually use a server where they encourage these activites like china and russia.

now firstly if ICANN actually did what they are being paid to do, they would enforce spam reporting systems on all registrars. Alot don't have any, or you have to be a customer to contact support and takes you hours to contact them. Alot like ICANN bump you off to the hosting people so its a back and forth game, many won't take you seriouslly to pull the domain down and as before tell you to contact the hosts instead. On the host front they won't listen to you either especially in places like Poland for instance, when I tracked down a Trac comment spammer, so they are harbouring spammers.

Now if it was quite a bit of red tape to register domains to begin with, with above said policies, it would be impossible for these people to have websites to begin with or have them up for too long to bother to spam. When they spam its always about selling their product and a link to their site. So no site no reason to be spamming. The more issue with the problem is that I only started getting spam when I started subscribing to publically archivable mailing lists so search engines are to blame too :)

Therefore filtering, is just ignoring the problem instead of tackleing it head on, its quite a serious matter especially with phishing emails for those who are not technically savvy. The other problem with Surbl, even though your private email domain A record if used is different to your MX record, and you are on a shared host. If that A record ip is blocked in surbl, most filters will not care that your MX is different to the A record so it will be blocked, as I experienced on the PHP list servers so its quite crippling.

Its a pain in the side in terms of how the internet goes, they really need to re spec how email and email servers work aswell I guess. Internet V2 17 years too late or something like that :)

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