-- Nathan Wright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
(on Tuesday, 11 September 2007, 02:20 PM -0700):
> Will layouts still render when ViewRenderer::setNoRender(true) has  
> been called? That's one of the things I like about the ZVE approach-- 
> you don't have to manipulate two helpers every time you want to  
> disable view rendering.

I'll take that into consideration. As a rule, I'm against such tight
coupling of components, but this one may make sense.

> Will Zend_Layout be limited to 1 layout per request?

The default implementation renders the layout during
dispatchLoopShutdown(). However, Zend_Layout itself is simply a class
and can be instantiated as many times as you want -- so you could
theoretically render several layouts in a given request.

> At first I was skeptical of Padriac Brady's talk of the controller- 
> centricity of ZF, but I think he's onto something. Why shouldn't you  
> be able to override the default layout from within a view script on a  
> case by case basis? [By calling $this->setLayout('non-default.phtml')  
> from a view.] 

I plan on having a view helper that allows you to access the layout
instance registered with the controller plugin, so yes, you'll be able
to do this. The usage will most likely be:

    $this->layout()->setLayout('non-default');

or something similar (i.e., returning the layout object, and then
allowing you to call methods on it).

> Maybe I should be looking at implementing a full  composite view or
> something if this sort of use case falls outside  80/20.

Between ZVE and Zend_Layout, you should have everything you need. :-)


> On 11-Sep-07, at 12:35 PM, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
> 
> >-- Philip G <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> >(on Tuesday, 11 September 2007, 02:25 PM -0500):
> >>On 8/18/07, Matthew Weier O'Phinney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >>    -- PotatoBob <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> >>    (on Friday, 17 August 2007, 11:33 PM -0700):
> >>>
> >>>I sure hope default module layouts and a setConfig() feature are  
> >>>added to
> >>>zend_layout :(
> >>
> >>    Ralph and I were discussing Zend_Layout yesterday. The current  
> >>design
> >>    we're looking at would have a default layout, and allow  
> >>specifying the
> >>    layout to use either via a setLayout() accessor or as an  
> >>argument to a
> >>    render() method.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Just jumping in to put my two cents in -- this is exactly what I'm
> >>looking for (setLayout() option). I originally built a layout  
> >>support,
> >>of this exact same model, on top of Zend_View in ZF ~0.6. In my
> >>research  to figure out Zend_View changes, I ran across this post.  
> >>I'm
> >>still figuring out what changed in Zend_View, but this is what I'm
> >>looking for. I'm actually rather shocked this option wasn't added  
> >>with
> >>1.0.
> >
> >To be clear, setLayout() will be part of a separate class,  
> >Zend_Layout.
> >Zend_View will not have any concept of layouts by itself.
> >
> >Layouts as created in most frameworks are simply views with  
> >placeholders
> >for content -- in other words, a decorator for an application view.
> >Zend_Layout will operate in a similar fashion, and register a plugin
> >with dispatchLoopShutdown() to perform its work.
> >
> >Layout support was not done for 1.0.0 as we'd only just finalized  
> >things
> >like integrated view support for controllers (via the ViewRenderer),
> >and action helpers -- the building blocks on which a layout solution
> >will be based.
> >
> >-- 
> >Matthew Weier O'Phinney
> >PHP Developer            | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Zend - The PHP Company   | http://www.zend.com/
> 

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