-- Eric Coleman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
(on Friday, 09 November 2007, 03:33 PM -0500):
> Matthew, I'm curious as to what's wrong with the current Zend_Form 
> implementations currently around. There are 2 'New' proposals listed in the 
> wiki, as well as 1 under 'Ready for Review'.  That's 3 proposals, and 2 
> working implementations already.
>
> Mitchell Hashimoto - http://mitchellhashimoto.com/zend-form
>
> There is also Jurriƫn's Proposal and working implementation (which not 
> only has feedback already from the community on the wiki, but he was also 
> given plenty of feedback on #zftalk).
>
> http://framework.zend.com/wiki/pages/viewpage.action?pageId=36061
> http://tools.assembla.com/svn/IntermentisFW/trunk/Mentis/

The problem is precisely the number of them. Each excels in areas that
others do not. I've been reading the feedback to all the proposals and
seeing what community members want of the component.

As announced on this list previously, in addition to reviewing the
proposals in the wiki, I've also been reviewing form solutions in other
frameworks, both PHP and otherwise, to see what features they offer,
what works well, what doesn't, and what common issues are. Basically,
I'm trying to build a best of breed combining all the ideas -- I'm not
trying to usurp the work others have done, but rather gather all the
best ideas and build an implementation built on those. If you look
carefully at the prototype I've done, you'll see that it uses code and
ideas from each of the proposals.

(BTW, I've actually had some email exchanges with two of the proposal
authors already, Jurrien and Simon; I'm certainly not trying to cut
anyone out of the process.)

I'll be asking for more feedback in the coming weeks, and should have a
proposal up next week combining the ideas and laying out the suggested
API.

> On Nov 9, 2007, at 2:03 PM, Matthew Weier O'Phinney wrote:
> > -- dinok <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
> > (on Friday, 09 November 2007, 10:56 AM -0800):
> > > Looks nice! Thank you for the link.
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > > I've got one question. Is there already something like API freeze
> > > planed?  Because I want to use Zend_Form in a new project.
> >
> > Not yet -- this is a prototype, and I'm still ironing it out. After
> > that, it will go back to the community for feedback, and only after I've
> > incorporated that and done testing will we have API freeze. It'll likely
> > be stable in around 4-5 weeks.

-- 
Matthew Weier O'Phinney
PHP Developer            | [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Zend - The PHP Company   | http://www.zend.com/

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