Wait the solution of creating an empty nl file and use the original text as
message id is not so good.
If I want to change my nl text, I'll have to change it in every single
translation file !
Ok 'ill use the message id's
debussy007 wrote:
>
>>> Just create an empty mo file for 'nl'... a task of 30 seconds.
>>> This is how things work with all gettext variants.
>
> Now I finally understand :-)
> But didn't know this trick, I have no experience at all with gettext
> Thank you !! :-)
>
>
>
> Thomas Weidner-2 wrote:
>>
>> Just create an empty mo file for 'nl'... a task of 30 seconds.
>> This is how things work with all gettext variants.
>>
>> The point is, that most people use real strings as messageid because this
>> makes the code more readable.
>> But they are still no "own" language and that's why an exception is
>> raised.
>> You can referr to it as "machinecode" or "messageid" as we have named it.
>>
>> As you may have seen we do not provide informations for how to create the
>> translation files.
>> This is because the documentation was written for people who are already
>> familiar with gettext or the other formats.
>> And in the manual you see that the default language is selected and the
>> other language is added...
>>
>> We do never try to set an other language as default.
>> If you would just try to translate it it would work...
>>
>> $translate = new Zend_Translate('myfile.mo', 'fr');
>> $translate->_('I want this text', 'nl');
>> // prints "I want this text" and throws NO exception
>>
>> And this is because "while translation never an exception occurs"...
>> that's
>> what is written in the docu.
>>
>> Again:
>> You can not set an default to an language which does not exist...
>> BUT you can try to translate a not defined language and will get the
>> messageid returned.
>>
>> Greetings
>> Thomas
>> I18N Team Leader
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "debussy007" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>> To: <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 5:07 PM
>> Subject: Re: [fw-general] Zend_Translate exception
>>
>>
>>>
>>> The manual is then confusing,
>>> because the strings inside the translate function do not look like
>>> message
>>> id's, but rather like the untranslated text.
>>> e.g. from the manual:
>>>>> print $translate->_("Here is line one")."\n";
>>>>> printf($translate->_("Today is the %1\$s") . "\n", date("d.m.Y"));
>>>
>>> That's why I tought that if a language in the local has no file
>>> associated
>>> to it, use the untranslated text inside the translate function.
>>>
>>> I didn't specify nl because the string inside the translate function are
>>> already dutch (untranslated text). So I would have a .mo file from dutch
>>> to
>>> dutch.
>>>
>>> If I'm not wrong, the manual is confusing.
>>> Sorry if I misunderstood again.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thomas Weidner-2 wrote:
>>>>
>>>> What do you mean with "already use english"...
>>>>
>>>> You are defining MessageIDs... these are textstrings... and if you want
>>>> to
>>>> output a messageid you have to provide a translation.
>>>> You can not do a translation and then expect the messageid to get
>>>> returned
>>>> .
>>>> The system does not know if your string "EDIT_3" or "Edit" is a real
>>>> string
>>>> or a messageid.
>>>>
>>>> There is a own function for getting the messageid and you can only use
>>>> languages which you have defined.
>>>>
>>>> The point is that you have not defined 'nl' to be part of
>>>> Zend_Translate,
>>>> only 'fr' and 'en', and therefor you get the exception that you have
>>>> not
>>>> defined 'nl' as language.
>>>>
>>>> So, define 'nl' as language and then you can set it as standard with
>>>> setLocale().
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "debussy007" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 3:55 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [fw-general] Zend_Translate exception
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Let's say I use english in my pages,
>>>>> I will have to have an english translation of english ??
>>>>>
>>>>> The problem is if I set the locale to "en" english, it will throw me
>>>>> that
>>>>> exception because I do not want to provide a translation from english
>>>>> to
>>>>> english. That's why I have no file for "en" in this case and it throws
>>>>> me
>>>>> an
>>>>> exception.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Thomas Weidner-2 wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hy,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you missunderstood something...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Expect the following:
>>>>>> You have english as standard language and used as messageids.
>>>>>> You have german and english translations.....
>>>>>> Now one of your messageid is not translated in german so the original
>>>>>> english will be returned instead of throwing an exception.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BUT:
>>>>>> If you set an language which Zend_Locale does not know it throws you
>>>>>> an
>>>>>> exception.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Reading through the returned message you see:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Uncaught exception 'Zend_Translate_Exception' with message 'Language
>>>>>>> (nl)
>>>>>>> has to be added before it can be used.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So what you will have to do before you can use a language is
>>>>>> $translate->addLanguage('myfile.mo', 'nl');
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If something is not translated within a file... no problem...
>>>>>> But if there is no file we have no way to do anything but throw an
>>>>>> exception
>>>>>> :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Greetings
>>>>>> Thomas
>>>>>> I18N Team Leader
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "debussy007" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>>>>>> To: <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 10, 2008 12:46 PM
>>>>>> Subject: [fw-general] Zend_Translate exception
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am using Zend_Translate to internationalize my application.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> $translate = new Zend_Translate('gettext',
>>>>>>> './public/ress/source-fr.mo',
>>>>>>> 'fr');
>>>>>>> $translate->addTranslation('./public/ress/source-en.mo', 'en');
>>>>>>> $translate->setLocale("nl");
>>>>>>> Zend_Registry::set(Constants::REG_TRANSLATE, $translate);
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The text is translated well if I set the local "fr" or "en" and it
>>>>>>> output
>>>>>>> the string from the appropriate .mo file.
>>>>>>> But once that I set it to "nl", I have the following exception:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Uncaught exception 'Zend_Translate_Exception' with message 'Language
>>>>>>> (nl)
>>>>>>> has to be added before it can be used.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But I was excepting to have the untranslated string back ! Because
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> manual it says that if no translation is found for "nl", the
>>>>>>> original
>>>>>>> message is returned.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you for any help !
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>>>>>>
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