-- Jordan Moore <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote (on Thursday, 20 March 2008, 01:05 PM -0700): > I just verified that "short_open_tag" is disabled in the > "php.ini-recommended" file that is distributed with PHP. I believe > this is to discourage users from using short open tags in > redistributable applications to ensure greater compatibility. If logic > is added to Zend_View that "supports" this functionality, it will be > promoting something that appears to be considered bad practice. I > realize that ZF would restrict it to views, but developers/users may > get in the habit of using short open tags elsewhere.
So, you're advocating for more verbose view scripts, then? Sorry, had to get the dig in. However, the question is serious. View scripts should be readable. If you use the same coding standards for view scripts that we have for the general framework components, they quickly become unreadable, even in a good IDE/editor with syntax highlighting. I personally feel it's not difficult to switch back and forth between view scripts and regular code -- in part because there is an immediate *visual* difference when I do so. I'm *not* recommending that we use short tags everywhere, and am fact recommending we restrict their usage to view scripts -- the stricter conventions would continue to apply where they matter most, which is with the core code. My proposal is that we append the manual to make this clear, and also to outline the rationale behind it. Besides the typical rationale about the recommended php.ini settings (this has been brought up before), and the fact that short tags are not on by default in all configurations (which I plan to address with a stream wrapper), what other objections are there to using short tags for view scripts? I personally feel that these two objections are pedantic -- being strict for strictness' sake -- and don't focus on maintainability and readability of the view scripts. But I'm willing to listen to other arguments. > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:49 PM, Jordan Moore > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Doesn't the recommended php.ini that is distributed with PHP disable short > > tags? > > > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 12:28 PM, Matthew Weier O'Phinney > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > -- Aaron D. Campbell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > > > (on Thursday, 20 March 2008, 12:06 PM -0700): > > > > > > > I'm sure I'll eventually appreciate it. However, I'm a little > > frustrated > > > > that I'm going to have to go through and fix all the short tags to > > get it > > > > working on my servers. > > > > > > Add this to your .htaccess: > > > > > > php_flag short_open_tag On > > > > > > I'm working on a stream wrapper to transparently enable this for people > > > who have the flag disabled, but the recommendation will be to have this > > > on so that your view scripts will work with optimal performance. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ralph Schindler wrote: > > > > > Hello everyone, > > > > > > > > > > I have put together a demo application that showcases some features > > of > > > > > Zend_Layout and Zend_View Enhancements within the MVC environment. > > If you > > > > > would like to download, set it up and play/browse the code within > > it, it > > > > > is located here: > > > > > > > > > > > > http://framework.zend.com/wiki/display/ZFUSER/Zend_Layout+and+Zend_View+Enhancements+Demo > > > > > > > > > > The demo currently includes ZF version 1.5 and Dojo 1.0.2 in the > > download. > > > > > So basically, this demo app is pretty self contained. Not alot of > > setup > > > > > aside from pointing a doc root to its public folder is necessary. > > > > > > > > > > Over the course of the coming weeks, I will be taking the time to > > add more > > > > > examples (I will increment the version number of the download as I > > do). > > > > > > > > > > If anyone has any feedback, or requests as to what you would like > > to see > > > > > Demo'ed within it either reply here or add comments directly to > > that page. > > > > > > -- > > > Matthew Weier O'Phinney > > > PHP Developer | [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Zend - The PHP Company | http://www.zend.com/ > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Jordan Moore - Creative Director > > Sanctus Studios LLC > > PO Box 2202 > > Tacoma, WA 98401 > > (253) 238-8676 > > > > > > -- > Jordan Moore - Creative Director > Sanctus Studios LLC > PO Box 2202 > Tacoma, WA 98401 > (253) 238-8676 > -- Matthew Weier O'Phinney PHP Developer | [EMAIL PROTECTED] Zend - The PHP Company | http://www.zend.com/
