True, but keep in mind that he word Zend_Feed does not contain the name of a company, like Yahoo or Amazon. A user might assume that Zend has some kind of agreement with them, and because no link or information is provided, he uses it in a commercial site.
Basically Audioscrobbler (Zend_Service_Audioscrobbler) is what triggered the debate in my company. By providing this component to our developers, they assume that they can use it without having to read any T&C or license agreement. I'm aware of the restrictions when retrieving data from other sites, but what if I deploy the Zend_Service_* components to 10 different servers, should I assume that all our developers located in different cities know this as well? Should I remove the Zend_Service_* components before deploying the framework to make sure there's no confusion and no one uses them? Or should I write some documentation to inform them about the restrictions imposed by each Web service? And if this is the case, who is responsible of informing me? Regards, Federico. On Thu, May 8, 2008 at 9:11 AM, Pádraic Brady <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't see why the Zend Framework should. It offers an implementation of > a > web service API which in no way impacts the licensing of content (since > content is NOT distributed with the framework). As usual, if anyone uses a > web service to retrieve data it is their responsibility to be aware of > that > data's restrictions whether they be copyrights, licenses or terms of > usage. > > Take another example. What if you use Zend_Feed to retrieve entries from > my > blog? Is the Zend Framework responsible for informing you that all my > content is released under a Creative Commons 3.0 license? ;) > > Of course not - that's your responsibility. > > Best regards, > Paddy > > > Federico Cargnelutti-3 wrote: > > > > Hi Brad > > > > Yes, I was referring to the consumption of the Web service, the > component > > itself is distributed under the new BSD licence. Some users might not > know > > that Audioscrobbler does not allow the use of their Web service in > > commercial apps. A quote taken from their site: > > > > "If you are making a healthy profit from your site, and using this data > to > > enhance the site, that sounds commercial. Any queries, just get in touch > > with us." > > > > I'm aware that Zend is not responsible for the use of any of the Zend > > Framework components, the user is. So, should ZF provide information to > > the > > user of the T&C, license and/or any restrictions imposed by a particular > > Web > > service? Or a simple link to the T&C page or license? > > > > > > On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 1:09 PM, Bradley Holt <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > wrote: > > > >> Federico, > >> > >> I was curious as to how one could legally license a web service (unless > >> it's through an API key that can only be obtained for non-commercial > use) > >> as > >> a license does not make much sense for a web services API (a "terms of > >> use" > >> may make sense, not a license). So, I went and looked at the > >> Audioscrobbler > >> Web Services <http://www.audioscrobbler.net/data/webservices/> page and > >> it > >> looks like technically the Audioscrobbler *content* you retrieve > through > >> the > >> web service is licensed under a Creative Commons > >> Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike License, not the use of the web > >> service > >> itself. I know this probably sounds like a trivial point, but I think > >> it's > >> important. I haven't used Audioscrobbler, but I imagine anyone using > the > >> Audioscrobbler API is an Audioscrobbler user who is aware that the > >> content > >> on Audioscrobbler is licensed under the Creative Commons > >> Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike License (or at least that it's > >> copyrighted material) and that the API wouldn't give you any special > >> license > >> to this content that you wouldn't otherwise have. Perhaps someone who > is > >> an > >> Audioscrobbler user can shed more light on this. > >> > >> > >> On Wed, May 7, 2008 at 4:37 AM, Federico Cargnelutti < > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > A quick question, visiting the Audioscrobbler's site, I found out > that > >> > the Web service they provide is for non-commercial use only and it's > >> > distributed under the Creative Commons > >> Attribution-NonCommercial-ShareAlike > >> > License. No, this is a bit confusing, people/companies using the > >> > Zend_Service_Audioscrobbler, for example, might be using their > service > >> > illegally without knowing it. If that's the case, I might be wrong, a > >> couple > >> > of questions: > >> > > >> > 1. Is this documented somewhere? > >> > 2. What are the requirements, in terms of licensing, when a web > service > >> > is proposed? > >> > 3. Are there any other components/services distributed with the Zend > >> > Framework that cannot be used in commercial sites that we need to be > >> aware > >> > of? > >> > > >> > Regards, > >> > Federico. > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Bradley Holt > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> > > > > > > > ----- > Pádraic Brady > > http://blog.astrumfutura.com > http://www.patternsforphp.com > OpenID Europe Foundation - Irish Representative > -- > View this message in context: > http://www.nabble.com/Web-services---licensing-issues-tp17100104p17122421.html > Sent from the Zend Framework mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > >
