Hi Thomas,

>First: Zend_Translate can not handle bilge pumps. I think you meant the 
>ISO-8859-1 standard.

A slip of the finger, dear Watson ;)

>Zend_Translate does not change any source... if your source is UTF you will 
>get UTF. If it's Win1503 you will get Win 1503...

I'm going to be a pain in the butt (until I realise I'm wrong and slink away 
embarrassed ;)). I did a quick test since it seemed a bit odd, and I'm getting 
the same result. The input's strlen is 1, and the output's is 2. Somewhere 
along the line, and my guess is xml_parser_create() as suggested, a single byte 
character miraculously transformed into a double byte u+diacritic. Adding the 
optional ISO-8859-1 encoding output option to xml_parser_create() in the TMX 
adapter corrects the problem and reverts to outputting the single-byte umlaut.

I'm not an expert here, so I could be off the wall. The PHP docs state that 
input encoding is detected from the input source, but the output is 
independently encoded as UTF-8 by default since PHP 5.0.2. So Pierre's input, 
without further changes, is indeed output under UTF-8. Specifically, the 
ISO-8859-1 umlaut becomes a double-byte UTF-8 u with a diacritic attached. That 
at least explains the mangled output Pierre is getting - the browser is simple 
taking the Content-Type seriously and printing the two bytes as separate chars.

Like I said, I could be completely wrong, or using a bad test case. But 
something doesn't add up right now.

Best regards,
Paddy

 Pádraic Brady

http://blog.astrumfutura.com
http://www.patternsforphp.com
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----- Original Message ----
From: Thomas Weidner <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: Zend Framework General <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 8:54:13 PM
Subject: Re: [fw-general] Zend_Translate in iso-8859-1

I already answered his question 17:04 CET.

Just 2 things:

First: Zend_Translate can not handle bilge pumps. I think you meant the 
ISO-8859-1 standard.
Second: I am using the western european standard myself in the testbed and 
in my applications without any problems.

Zend_Translate does not change any source... if your source is UTF you will 
get UTF. If it's Win1503 you will get Win 1503...

Greetings
Thomas Weidner, I18N Team Leader, Zend Framework
http://www.thomasweidner.com

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pádraic Brady" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Spring Pierre" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: "Zend Framework General" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 9:27 PM
Subject: Re: [fw-general] Zend_Translate in iso-8859-1


Maybe Thomas can clarify, since I don't use ISO-8849-1, but in the TMX 
adapter I noted it's using the XML Parser extension but it doesn't specify 
an output encoding. As far as I know the default out encoding, independent 
of the input encoding, is UTF-8. Could this be creating a subtle encoding 
transfer? In goes ISO-8849-1, out comes slightly corrupted UTF-8 for 
Pierre's 00F6 umlauts?

Pádraic Brady

http://blog.astrumfutura.com
http://www.patternsforphp.com
OpenID Europe Foundation Member-Subscriber




----- Original Message ----
From: Spring Pierre <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: Wolfgang Forstmeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Cc: [email protected]
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 4:17:54 PM
Subject: Re: [fw-general] Zend_Translate in iso-8859-1

dear wolfgang,

>> i build a Zend_Form and need the validation messages to be
>> translated.
>>
>> i wrote an xml file with the error messages [1]. i tried both, an
>> iso-8859-1
>> and utf-8 version of the xml file.
>>
>> i then attach the translation to the form and render it. cf. [2]
>>
>> i seem to have a problem with encoding though.

> Maybe some more description what is going wrong would be nice.
> What is really wrong ?

the encoding seems to be wrong . i'd need to output ISO-8859-1, yet
it outputs UTF-8.

the xml file i read the translations from is in ISO-8859-1 ...

c.f. screenshot [1]

greetings ... pierre

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[1] http://wiki.caillou.ch/_media/code:zend_translate_encoding_problem.png
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