In addition to the points numbered in Graham's mail I would like to add
the following: A number of channel operators exist for both #zftalk and
#zftalk.dev, they should ensure some adherence to discussion topics for
both channels. Because these channels are located on freenode, they
shall try to follow the guidelines found at
http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml . Those of you not familiar
with IRC (or the freenode network) might want to take a look at this.
Especially the points focusing on elitism could be of merit. In my
humble opinion we should try to avoid the scenario where #zftalk.dev is
viewed by members of the community as elite (and therefore "cool"). We
should value everybody's input in both channels, and kindly point them
to the separation of topics, should that be necessary.
Hope to see you there,
Maurice Fonk
Graham Anderson schreef:
On Tuesday 08 July 2008 21:54:28 Jurriën Stutterheim wrote:
Hi all,
It is my pleasure to announce the #zftalk.dev IRC channel on
irc.freenode.net! This channel is intended for discussions regarding
the development of Zend Framework components. Of course, everybody is
welcome to join in. However, unlike #zftalk, this channel will be a
bit more strict about staying on-topic. The existing #zftalk channel
remains and is, as usual, available for asking all ZF related
questions, or just general (programming ;) chat.
See you on IRC!
- Jurriën
I'd just like to add a few points, the #zfdev channel name that was mentioned
earlier on the mailing list ( albeit in another topic ) will forward to
#zftalk.dev for your convenience.
For help, support, ideas and discussion about developing *applications* using
Zend Framework we would hope that #zftalk will still be your first port of
call if IRC is a convenient resource for you.
For #zftalk.dev a brief synopsis of what might be considered on-topic might be
helpful.
1. Discussion relating to the ongoing or future development of Zend Framework
components or Zend Framework tool-chain utilities.
2. Discussion relating to authoring or refining a proposal for inclusion of a
component of modification to Zend Framework.
3. Discussion relating to contributing to Zend Framework through language
translation, patch submission, manual authoring or editing.
Please note, that logging was identified as a valuable resource for those that
could not be there for certain discussions due to their timezone. As such, and
because of the wish to keep the channel discussion on-topic. Logging will be
enabled by default, with a search interface to be provided in the near future.
Both #zftalk and #zftalk.dev are community based resources so if you have any
questions regarding these IRC channels, please ask in this thread or join us
on irc.freenode.net
