Ok. I know I tend to get excited when I read something, and in certain occassions may lash out prior to fully responding to how I feel. So for that, because I'm sure youve seen it once or twice, I am sorry. I do not know why I haven't given my contributions to how I feel about various components. Probably because my verbiage tends to come out alot different than my codebase. Team discussion is a major pitfall of mine. I will try to provide more constructive feedback when due.
Matthew Weier O'Phinney-3 wrote: > > -- jkush1121 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > (on Saturday, 13 September 2008, 08:14 AM -0700): >> I agree completely with you. I have disliked the pluralized directory >> paths >> since day one, and have felt bad for using my own structure partly due to >> not following the standards. > > If you've felt bad about them "since day one," why didn't you comment on > the proposal, or in the discussions on-list? (not trying to be pissy > here, but if you don't raise your voice, then you can't complain later) > > That said, this is the *recommended* structure -- that does not mean > that you *must* follow it. In fact, we have left flexibility in the > system to allow it to adapt to *your* structures. > > >> I couldn't agree any more with you on this statement. I am not a fan of >> the >> "Default Project" structure, and since hearing someone claim it should be >> changed to a "Sample Project" structure, I no longer feel I am taking an >> incorrect path ( as a seasoned developer ). >> >> >> don-87 wrote: >> > >> > Is there any reason why the dirs are pluralized? >> > And one is not (config)? >> > >> > And the most important question: >> > What is a "default" project structure good for? >> > >> > I mean: Do you all work on the same application or you all write an >> > all-purpose cms or application framework based on ZF? >> > I think the main purpose to organize your classes and files in an >> > application is depending on your own needs, the type of software you >> > write, the context, the domain you are working on and NOT the fixed >> > structure of any (external) framework, isn't it? >> > What if I want to change my infrastructure or framework, do I have to >> > rename all my classes and reorganize all dirs? Or I want to move away >> > from MVC, does my application collapse then? >> > >> > This proposal could be valid for a "sample project using MVC" but not >> > for a default ZF project, the latter doesn't exist. >> > >> > It's ok to give some tips and hints for beginners how one CAN structure >> > a sample MVC (not default!) project but it should NOT be official, >> > because there is no "default" project, I never heard of an "default" >> > application being built with a specific (mvc) framework. >> > Aside from using convention over configuration like with RoR..... >> > >> > Sorry for being some kind of rude on this but I always have problems >> > with frameworks/technologies trying to give me any kind of allegations >> > or constraints on how I have to design my software. >> > >> > >> > >> > Matthew Weier O'Phinney schrieb: >> >> -- Ralf Eggert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote >> >> (on Friday, 12 September 2008, 07:25 PM +0200): >> >>> I am highly interested in the current status of the "Default Project >> >>> Structure Component Proposal". In June the proposal was approved for >> >>> incubator development. >> >>> >> >>> http://framework.zend.com/wiki/x/6KM >> >>> >> >>> Is there any news? >> >> >> >> The version currently posted is the version we've accepted and which >> >> Ralph is using as his target for Zend_Tool. >> >> >> >> I saw your comment come through. We'd prefer not to have two separate >> >> directory layouts. The reason is that a site may grow organically, and >> >> at first need simply a single controller directory. As the sites needs >> >> grow, the developer should not need to refactor; adding a modules >> >> directory to application/ is a simple step and already supported by >> the >> >> front controller and dispatcher. > > -- > Matthew Weier O'Phinney > Software Architect | [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Zend Framework | http://framework.zend.com/ > > -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/Status-of-Default-Project-Structure-Component-Proposal-tp19460597p19477221.html Sent from the Zend Framework mailing list archive at Nabble.com.
